Tick borne red meat allergy - wait, what? Yep.

<p>[East</a> End doctors treating tick-borne meat allergy | Suffolk Times](<a href=“http://suffolktimes.timesreview.com/2013/05/39469/east-end-doctors-treating-tick-borne-meat-allergy/]East”>East End doctors treating tick-borne meat allergy - The Suffolk Times)</p>

<p>Interesting. Main conclusions: don’t get bitten by ticks and avoid PROCESSED foods.</p>

<p>Here’s the tick prevention stuff:</p>

<p>[Amazon.com:</a> Sawyer Premium Permethrin Clothing Insect Repellent Trigger Spray: Sports & Outdoors](<a href=“http://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Premium-Permethrin-Clothing-Repellent/dp/B007VCRX2S/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top]Amazon.com:”>http://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Premium-Permethrin-Clothing-Repellent/dp/B007VCRX2S/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top)</p>

<p>You spray this on clothing, then let it dry for several hours. It makes the clothing tick repellent so you can walk around outside and not pick up ticks. Especially good idea to treat your socks, pant legs, etc. Lasts up to six washings and/or several weeks of exposure to UV outdoors.</p>

<p>You can also buy special insect repellent clothing that is factory treated with this stuff.</p>

<p>Does absolutely nothing if you spray it on your skin. Doesn’t repel insects that way. You need DEET for that. It’s toxic to cats in the liquid form, but not after it has dried.</p>

<p>REI also sells it. I’ve used a whole 24 ounce bottle treating all my hiking socks, baseball caps, gaiters, and a couple of pants and shirts. This would be the way to go for gardening clothes, too.</p>

<p>Another reason to find ticks horrifying. We use the Sawyer’s on our camping equipment as well. </p>

<p>Two summers ago my son (13 at the time) had Lyme and ended up with temporary facial paralysis. I saw him in the morning and I’m trying not to freak out while asking him if his arms or legs feel ok. I thought he had had a stroke. Poor kid went to summer camp like that, but he kinda made a joke of it and handled it well.</p>

<p>Very interesting on how there used to be a Lyme vaccine but negative publicity and public opinion drove it off the market.</p>

<p>Negative publicity drove the lyme vaccine off the market because so many ppl claimed to get really really really sick w/ lyme after they had the shot(s).</p>

<p>I was surprised lone star tick is found in the east (Long Island). Hah for some reason I thought it was found in Texas. Or the rocky mountains (rocky mtn spotted fever and all)…</p>

<p>*Very interesting on how there used to be a Lyme vaccine but negative publicity and public opinion drove it off the market.
*</p>

<p>You mean they werent making enough money?
There is only one kind of tick that can carry Lyme, it is probably prudent to avoid all ticks.</p>

<p>This is the article I read about the vaccine</p>

<p>[The</a> History of the Lyme Disease Vaccine ? History of Vaccines](<a href=“http://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/articles/history-lyme-disease-vaccine]The”>Lyme Disease)</p>

<p>When I had Lyme I was incredibly sick, I have never felt felt that bad before or after. But in the end I feel I was actually lucky since I sought treatment for it immediately. A lot of people are basically asymptomatic and suffer long term effects because they did not know they had it.</p>

<p>Ok, I’m a little thick over here…my S contracted Lyme Disease last summer here in New England. After a weekend in Newport, RI…got an antibiotic within a few days of welts forming. Lyme Disease went away after being on antibiotic for a 10 day-2 week period, if IRRC. Are there many types of ticks? He has eaten red meat in this past year and has been fine…could the allergy still develop? Hmm. Better be on the lookout…maybe he should ask Dr. if he needs to carry an epi pen with him…nothing was said about it at the time, though last year…</p>

<p>Lots of ppl don’t know they don’t have lyme because the most common blood test for it tells them they don’t have it when they do (false negative). The reason there are so many false negatives is because when they were trying to test/market the lyme vaccine, they needed a test that would distinguish ppl who got lyme even tho they had been vaccinated. So they developed a test that strips out markers from vaccination. Now there’s no vaccination but the reaction to what would have been vaccine markers are still stripped out. So the test is less strong, if you will, than it should be. (I’m doing a pretty awful job of explaining stuff from [Cure</a> Unknown: Inside the Lyme Epidemic: Pamela Weintraub: 9780312378134: Amazon.com: Books](<a href=“http://www.amazon.com/Cure-Unknown-Inside-Lyme-Epidemic/dp/0312378130/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1367785065&sr=8-1&keywords=disease+unknown]Cure”>http://www.amazon.com/Cure-Unknown-Inside-Lyme-Epidemic/dp/0312378130/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1367785065&sr=8-1&keywords=disease+unknown)). </p>

<p>Anyway, if you suspect lyme, the doc should ask for the Western Blot test, which is the only one that doesn’t have the dumbed down version from the vaccine days. The Western Blot gives fewer false negatives.</p>

<p>Chronic lyme is no joke.</p>

<p><a href=“https://www.facebook.com/lymedisease.org[/url]”>https://www.facebook.com/lymedisease.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Oh Chocchip - different tick for lyme and for the red meat allergy. It’s just once you start talking ticks, lyme just rears its ugly, growing, growling head. The tick that seems to have been discovered to cause the allergy to red meat is the lone star tick. The tick that seems to give lyme is the deer tick. Tho you could easily convince me that all ticks could carry any of the diseases…they all bite mice and deer and whatever they can get their hideous little fangs into, right? They all suck blood, right? /shrug. I don’t like 'em I don’t like ‘em at all. Am having a hard time w/ my aversion to nature - that which used to give me the feeling of all the angels singing. I feel so rejected. Dumb ol’ ticks.</p>

<p>^^Hugcheck:</p>

<p>Thanks for the info. I feel more relieved now. We had no idea what it was…thought it was either bed bug bites or had a few different ideas swirling around. Thankfully we went to Dr. within a day or two of being back home and he said Lyme Disease immediately. With Lyme Disease, once you have the antibiotic, you are supposedly cured from it?</p>

<p>Runswscissors:</p>

<p>Yeah, he had same reaction as you. Chills, sweats, chills some more. Fever…I don’t remember what else, but he was miserable. My kids are never sick so this was very odd. Symptoms and chills went away after being on antibiotic for only a few days.</p>

<p>Glad to know he’s been eating red meat and no allergy issues! Does Lyme Disease ever re-occur from same tick bite??</p>

<p>

</p>

<p>I think one of the main issues is that it can get into your nervous system and cause irreversible damage if it’s not caught in time. It sounds like your son’s was caught pretty early.</p>

<p>I know a dog that’s allergic to beef. I wonder if the dog had a tic bite. :)</p>

<p>^^Thanks you guys. Gee whiz, everywhere you turn these days, you have to be so careful about every little thing…</p>

<p>here is another reason to avoid ticks
Babesiosis
[CDC</a> - Babesiosis](<a href=“http://www.cdc.gov/parasites/babesiosis/]CDC”>CDC - Babesiosis)</p>

<p>Ugh…I hate ticks (really all insect). I went hiking w friends in Harriman State Park in NY State this weekend and found a deer tick while driving home. My friend removed it with hydrogen peroxide, which is the worst way, as the tick ‘pukes it guts’ into your blood system, which releases the Lyme’s bacteria if it was a carrier. (normally it would take 24+ hours). </p>

<p>Within 24 hours it was turning red & itching, so I went to the doctor yesterday, who gave me 3 options:
(1) do nothing and wait for the flu-like symptoms to start
(2) come back in 2-3 weeks for a blood test
(3) start a 2 week regimen of doxycycline now.</p>

<p>She was pushing #2 and advising against #3. I asked for the Rx.</p>

<p>I have heard that if you get bitten, be sure to save the tick so it can be tested for Lyme.</p>

<p>Eireann, “I know a dog that’s allergic to beef. I wonder if the dog had a tic bite.” That is very very interesting. I wonder, too!</p>

<p>In our area, Lyme disease is very widespread due to the high number of deer/trees and rural nature of the area. At a soccer game a few years ago one parent asked for a show of hands as to who had had the disease and half the parents raised theirs. The key is not only taking the **full **course of antibiotics ( sometimes it can involve multiple courses) but also finding a Lyme literate physician who has treated other patients with the disease, otherwise you may find that you know more than him/her. Caught early it can be treated without any long term problems but I have seen some people severely debilitated by the disease.</p>

<p>I personally know of at least one young individual (in her early 20’s) who suffers from chronic and, at times, debilitating pain from Lyme. I don’t really know her exact history, but I guess she must have had the disease when she was younger and it went untreated.</p>

<p>She just earned her masters in entomology and is looking to get her PhD in order to study how to prevent lyme from spreading/eradicate the disease in the tick population.</p>

<p>I also know several people whose lives have been changed because of Lyme’s, which is why I choose the immediate start to the Rx. The Rx is a pain - 2x/day on empty stomach and watch sun exposure. IMO, a small price to pay to avoid Lyme’s. I’ve learned my lesson and will apply DEET before hiking.</p>