Yea, agree that hybrids have appeal. But the downside arguments have some merit too.
I need a new suv, too. I just want a 4x4 suv with a real tailgate with ground clearance to drive on the beach. Ford is tryingā¦
I am hoping the upcoming 2025 ford excursion with the tailgate pushes other manufacturers to reconsider the useless liftgate. I donāt want something as big as an Excursion, and I donāt want something as fancy as the Land Rover (and even used I would question spending that much money). The Rivian with tailgate does not have the driving range we need.
We should have kept the rusted 80ās era Jeep Grand Cherokee we gave away to someone with a farm when we just did not have the time or money to fix itā¦it was not really an icon 20 years ago that it is now.
We bought a Toyota 4Runner many years ago because it had a real tailgate - you could even open the window in it. I just checked and it looks like it still does.
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Thanks, the 4 Runner and their new Land Cruiser both have full liftgates. The window does open on the 4Runner liftgate and several others, but none of the new ones have a piece that folds down to sit on.
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Thatās too bad. At least those gorgeous dogs look happy!
Good luck on your search
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My car arrived to the dealership on Friday, but I was out of town with my son and family. I went by yesterday to have them give me a price for a trade in; I had a decent price from CarMax, and they came close. It is just easier to trade with them, so I go back tomorrow to leave one car, and head home in my new Lexus RX-350h.
While I was working with 3 different dealerships, this one was able to get what I wanted. I believe they were able to switch a color on a car in their allotment. There was nothing extra added to the car that I didnāt want, which was something I was afraid of; some of these add ons could increase the price by $2K-$3K. As it was technically an order, and there are no hybrids on the lots, I didnāt save as much as I would have liked, but I knew that going in.
I hate driving a car that isnāt mine, so it will take me some time to get comfortable with this car, especially with all the electronics. I probably will be reading the manual for weeks! While my current car is 13 years old, I will miss it, as I really like it.
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What a fabulous ending to your car story. Send us a pic of your new car! From the side so we canāt see the license. Congratulations on getting exact,y what you wanted!
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Iām sure youāll get acquainted with it in no time. Apple car play (or the Android version) will be a great thing for you.
Enjoy.
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YAY - So glad if (finally) worked out well for you.
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Congrats!! Best SUV weāve ever had. 
Actually, 2 of them. Then came the X. Well drive it into the ground and get a Lexus EV. Iām envious of your rain sensing wipers and headlights that turn with the car!! Enjoy.
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I have those tooā¦and I love them. And I also have auto high beams that lower automatically when an oncoming car is coming.
Have fun learning your new car features. Mine is almost a year old, and Iām still learning new things!
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My friend recently got a new car and she said You Tube has been great for figuring out her new car.
Congratulations on the new car.
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@mom60 As I have been looking at this car for months, I learned about 2 one hour YouTube Deep Dive videos. While I havenāt viewed them yet, they have been saved on my computer for months! According to many on the RX group I found, everything is there. Once the car is in my garage, I will start watching.
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I donāt like those auto sensing dimmers! Of course, I still prefer the dimmer on the left foot floor board!
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Just curiousā¦.why?
They donāt seem to get it right, or at least not when I went them on or not on. Could be just our vehicle, but I am still a person that likes control. I have very rarely used cruise control only because I donāt feel like Iām doing the driving and afraid it can easily distract you if you donāt have the feel of control. Guess itās just a control thing.
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Personal preference and thatās OK!
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I feel like Iāll be the same way with the windshield wipers. Iām very noise sensitive, and the wipers are one that can drive me batty. I want to have control to have it exactly how I need it at the time. Hopefully, they have a setting when you can turn that stuff off.
Maybe we need a thread on new car featuresā¦Iāll start one!
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