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<p>I’m sad you feel that way.</p>
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<p>Transubstantiation occurs at every valid Mass.</p>
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<p>You confess to God, not to the priest. Again, your ignorance of Catholicism precludes the possibility of an intelligent conversation.</p>
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<p>It’s nice, and it need not be Biblical.</p>
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<p>No.</p>
<p>Let this drop. You’re only proving your own stupidity.</p>
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<p>So every priest can perform miracles?</p>
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<p>Catholics still go to confession, don’t they? And when they do, they confess to a priest, right? And if you commit a mortal sin, isn’t this type of confession required before you can take communion?</p>
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<p>Why not? You are partaking in a Sacrament, not serving salad at the church picnic.</p>
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<p>Transubstantiation occurs at every Mass. That is as far as I will go.</p>
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<p>Catholics go to confession. They confess to God. Mortal sin removes the state of grace and must be confessed before the reception of Communion.</p>
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<p>I am partaking in a Sacrament. The length of fast need not be Biblical.</p>
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<p>I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain why, although bonus points if you identify the reference. </p>
<p>And the “because someone said so” question sounds suspiciously like your own argument – we should be sola scriptura because you and other Biblical literalists say so. The Bible doesn’t even say so. So please don’t fling your **** at me when you should be smearing it in your own face. At least I recognize that I am making assumptions; you have deluded yourself to the point where you no longer recognize the nature of faith.</p>
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<p>My response involved no ignorance. And I’m not interested in holding any conversation at all. I would love it if you stopped posting right now.</p>
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<p>So every priest can perform miracles or you just never thought of that?</p>
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<p>No when you go to confession you confess to a priest.</p>
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<p>A Few Good Men! One of my favorite movies!</p>
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<p>I read the Bible. I don’t know it backwards and forwards but if I have a question faith-wise, I go there to look for the answer. I don’t get out my Catechism or Book of Order or Book of Mormon.</p>
<p>You gonna eat with that mouth?</p>
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<p>A requirement added by men then changed by men, not God. Did you ever hear of the moneychangers?</p>
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<p>Maybe not but just no doesn’t answer the question.</p>
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<p>Transubstantiation occurs at every Mass. Fact. Transubstantiation is considered a miracle. Fact. Those are two facts. I am aware and was aware of both of them. Period. I don’t care where this is leading; I’m not going down that path. Save your breath.</p>
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<p>Yes, in that he is there. But you are confessing them also directly to God. The priest does not sever or disrupt the direct link in the Catholic understanding. A priest by himself cannot forgive, only God can forgive. The priest is imbued with the power of the Holy Ghost and administers the absolution. Do your research and stop acting like an imbecile.</p>
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<p>Good. At least you have some redeeming qualities.</p>
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<p>Good for you! Want a cookie? I also read the Bible. I read the Catechism as well. Guess what? We take their validity on faith! So please stop saying that such-and-such is not in the Bible. I understand, and I don’t really care. It’s not a problem for me. It may be for you, but that’s not my concern. You could say that you don’t read the Koran to a Muslim, and I’m sure he would say “That’s sad/frightening/etc.” Would you care? Probably not. See how this works?</p>
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<p>No. I prefer to talk.</p>
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<p>The Holy Ghost guides the Church. </p>
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<p>It answers it to my satisfaction, the only satisfaction about which I am concerned.</p>
<p>Please stop posting before I get really mad.</p>
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<p>Well, by your own admission, every priest is able to perform miracles. I don’t think that is a fact.</p>
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<p>No you are confessing to another human being. If you want to confess directly to God you can do that. I don’t need to do any research. I know the reasoning behind it. I just see no Biblical basis for it.</p>
<p>The Bible is the word of God. The source for truth. No other books are needed.</p>
<p>OK so you never heard of the moneychangers. Those were the people in the temples that had told people they had to pay for their sacrifices and the church leaders of the time endorsed this. No Biblical basis for what they were doing but it is in the Bible.</p>
<p>I didn’t know this was all about you! That changes everything!</p>
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<p>Again, as I have said many times before, my posts are from the perspective of Catholic doctrine when I am discussing it. So in terms of Catholic doctrine, transubstantiation is a fact.</p>
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<p>The Church does not believe that.</p>
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<p>You’re right. By going to confession you can definitely do that.</p>
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<p>Yeah, you really, really do, because you are making nonsense up and then “debunking” it. That’s called strawmanning. It’s a logical fallacy.</p>
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<p>Then you haven’t done research, because the Biblical basis for confession is really there. Whether you agree with the interpretation is not actually the issue here. I know there is a Biblical basis because I read it less than twenty minutes ago. Better get started on that research.</p>
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<p>Yes. </p>
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<p>False.</p>
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<p>I hope that it does, i.e., I hope that your posts and the lack of intelligent content within them cease to be inflicted upon this forum and therefore the world.</p>
<p>Why is it necessary to “go” to confession to confess my sins? Yes there is a Biblical basis for confession. I never claimed there wasn’t. What I meant was there is no Biblical basis for confessing your sins to another human being before being able to take communion.</p>
<p>What have I made up? I know what strawmaning is and that is not what I am doing.</p>
<p>Why are other books other than the Bible necessary? </p>
<p>I have notice you continue to insult my intelligence and have called me an imbecile and other names while I have never done posted anything like that about you. Is this a tactic you use in all you discussions?</p>
<p>the whole thing is that you dont want your son to quit and you dont wnt to hav him un happy so make a comitment to both if his troop is very active he is lucky so is mine and im now 18 so i have became a scout leader and i did enjoy 12 1/2 years of scouting so i know what your going through becuse i have seen lots of people get board of scouting and quit but if its to much for him take a week off from the activitys and hang out with his friends but if he has not gone on any higher adventure events he should sick in there be cuse ill tell you there is some really cool stuff that you can only do at the scouting than through any other program and the price for scouting to do all that you do its amazzing ad you can bet when i have kids there going to be in scouting
PS. if he want to hang out with his friends he should recrute them in to scouting becuse scout camp outs and week long back packing trips arnt really fun if you not doing it with a couple of buddys and even thou me and a couple of other scuts have gotten our eagle and turned 18 on weekends we still will call each other up and go camping gust like we were tender foots all over again</p>
<p>Jonney, I’m glad you enjoyed Scouting so much. It’s a program that is not perfect, but offers so much good for its members.</p>
<p>Scouting isn’t perfect and has never claimed to be perfect. Nothing is except our Lord.</p>
<p>OK, let’s keep this thread on scouting now. We all need a rest.</p>
<p>A permanent rest. I agree.</p>
<p>I am responding to BB’s posts by PM henceforth, and will thus be able to determine whether they constitute legitimate conversation or a Philistine-like desire to be seen.</p>
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<p>Personal attack! Not very Scout like or very Christian like!</p>