@Penn95 @ilosic A few friendly points. First, we are splitting hairs. Penn is a superb leading institution. UChicago has a clear weakness in life sciences and medicine compared to Penn. However, it is a world leader in Nobel prizes (with Columbia) and since the year 2000 it is in top five in Nobel prizes ( Harvard and Yale not even in top ten). It is a trailblazer in economics, law, anthropology and sociology. It Has with Berkeley the top English department in the US and is ultra prominent in Astronomy, physics, history and near eastern studies. Penn has top professional schools. Wharton is a spot a head of Booth. UChicago law school is a few spots a head in law. Penn in by far superior in medicine, engineering and rising. But as an overall academic institution, I have to give UChicago a slight edge in name recognition due to the above factors. Cheers.
I also think internationally you have to look at schools like Michigan, Wisconsin, Washington, ucla, Berkeley, and Minnesota cause they attract so many from Asia
Berkeley Michigan are clear academic power houses. UCLA Very close and I agree they are superb. But undergraduate experience is mixed at CA schools due to budget cuts, over crowding and dorm issues.
Ranking the top colleges in any aspect is highly subjective and up to debate.
I’m just gonna name the 10 colleges I knew when I first entered high school, top 3 are really famous to me, the rest are about the same
- Harvard
- MIT
- Stanford
- Duke
- UT Austin (I'm in Texas)
- UC Berkeley
- UCLA
- Princeton
- Columbia
- Yale
Probably Average Canadian:
- Harvard
- Yale
- Princeton
- McGill (Simpsons Harvard of Canada anyone?) 5 - 10: Any Local Canadian University, from most prestigious to less prestigious
Name recognition with the public is not the same as prestige, people.
More Americans can whistle the entire fight songs of Michigan and Notre Dame than have ever even heard of UChicago or Penn or several others people are suggesting.
Agreed. People where I’m from might respond to mention of Penn with “Penn State?”
No, in Philadelphia.
“Penn State has a campus in Philadelphia?”
I work at a middle school. Often times I see students wearing Harvard, Stanford and Cal sweatshirts. Stanford and Cal make sense as they are local and have sports teams, Harvard is the one that seems odd to me…
But when my students ask me where my kid attends college and I respond “Yale” they all get wide-eyed and say “wow”…These are often first generation ESL kids so some of these schools (HYPS) certainly have name recognition among a very diverse and young population.
The only nam recognition that matters is with people who know: graduate schools, employers, opionion makers, academics etc. Why would you care if Joe six pack knows PENN or not ?
Lmao not everyone seems to know the HYPMS schools
I was in spanish, with one of my friends who got into MIT.
Girl behind us says “what college are you going to?”
My friend says “MIT!”
Girl behind us says “Uh, where is that?”
My friend says “Massachusetts”
Girl behind us says “Is it a good school?”
then asks the person next to her “Is MIT a good school? I’ve never heard of it…”