<p>I heard, though, that if you live in Houston, a Rice degree is considered extremely prestigious and well-respected. Just how if you lie in Atlanta, Emory is considered extremely prestigious, and same with Middlebury and its city and Amherst and its city.</p>
<p>It is true having 25-75s of 700-800, 700-790 and 690-790 does NOT mean either that 25% have below 2100 or that 25% have 2380+, but you can estimate that probably around 18-28 percent of the undergrads have below 2100 on their sats. But the principle is the same, that 25 percent of the undergraduates are honestly not very incredibly academically qualified applicants and only got in because of hooks (like legacy, URM, athlete).</p>
<p>ARE YOU SERIOUS???
you are calling someone who gets a 2100 not very impressive?!?!?!
this is ridiculous…you need to pull your head out of ur butt!!! </p>
<p>CC is not an indicator of students in the US…what is deemed as impressive on here is perfection…anything less is considered crap.<br>
in the real world…getting a 2000 is something that people will be like…oh thats a good score. in some places people are praised for getting a 2000.
just because someone deoestn perform perfectly on a standardized test on one saturday morning doesnt mean they arent academically qualified, or anything. people go on from state schools and lower tier universities to discover, innovate, and be in the forefront of their respective industries without getting perfect tests scores.
i hope that people realize how dumb it sounds to argue that someone who gets a 2100 isnt academically qualified. Sorry that they missed like 5 more questions than the kid who got the 2300. big freaking deal.</p>
<p>as gellino said: "A 2100 SAT is the top 3%. Only on CC would someone scoff at only being in the top 3% and view it as “not vey impressive.”
that is exactly right…and i hope all of you who do scoff at a 2100 realize that you are arrogant and live in some strange fake reality where anything short of perfection is crap</p>
<p>Some of the people I knew that got into Harvard had the exact same SAT scores at me (2170), and I knew another one that hit 1900 on his first time taking the SATs and 2000 on the second time. These were people who took classes at HARVARD itself while in highschool while taking a pretty huge load of AP requirements (beyond what the school has offered) and still maintained a top 10 class rank overall position with like monstrous amounts of leadership activities…</p>
<p>I don’t think you really understand that test scores mean nothing since these ppl I knew really afford prep classes etc…</p>
<p>Test scores don’t really reveal anything about you except you are really motivated to take this test and you answered the questions right on the exam. I think even the collegeboard changed the name of the SATs from “Scholastic Aptitude Test” in 1990, because of uncertainty about the SAT’s ability to function as an intelligence test, the name was changed to Scholastic Assessment Test because it is a test that can be studied for… Doesn’t measure anything, especially does not measure intelligence since collegeboard recognized the exam can be cracked by just practicing a whole lot for it or buying the SAT books…</p>
<p>With that said, the bottom 25% of Harvard is nothing to scoff at…</p>
<p>Hey, I never said that SAT scores meant anything, though they’re better than nothing I believe. I was just using them as an example to demonstrate that not everyone who gets into Harvard is incredibly talented academically. </p>
<p>“Some of the people I knew that got into Harvard had the exact same SAT scores at me (2170),”</p>
<p>Exactly. People shouldn’t go ga-ga over the kid with the Harvard diploma while not going ga-ga over you (because you don’t have the harvard diploma) because you could be just as qualified as the person with Harvard degree. Get it?</p>
<p>Bowling Green State
SUNY Brockport
UNC
Delta State
Stephen F. Austin
Harvard
Roger Williams University
University of Alaska, Anchorage
Oklahoma Panhandle State
Vanderbilt
Biola University
Columbia
Penn
Duke
Stubeunville</p>
<p>To be honest, the guy with 2170 said he couldn’t have gotten into Harvard without me electing him as a founding team captain for this really prestigious volunteer organization I helped create with the Boston Red Sox… Those were the same exact words that came out of his mouth.</p>
<p>I’m just as qualified as him, if not ten times more lol.</p>
<p>“but you can estimate that probably around 18-28 percent of the undergrads have below 2100 on their sats.”
No, you really can’t, unless you have access to some kind of correlation data. Besides URMs, I am guessing the vast majority below 25% in one are higher than average in the other two. Almost NONE will be below the 25% in all three. Theoretically, it would be quite easily possible for them to have those 25-75s and have 0% of their class below 2100 or above 2380 (although obviously it isn’t quite that extreme in reality).</p>
<p>“Besides URMs, I am guessing the vast majority below 25% in one are higher than average in the other two.”</p>
<p>That’s completely ridiculous. You think most Harvard football players have over a 2100 SAT? You think most Yale lacrosse players have over a 2100 SAT? What about developlemntal admits, children of famous people like Brad Pitt, and some legacies?</p>
<p>I could look up the statistics, but I’m too lazy, and just use your common sense.</p>
<p>I generally agree with what you’re saying about average vs range, but don’t think it’s as extreme as you think. For example, I know for Colgate that the median for accepted students based on the 25-75% range is 1415 vs an avg SAT of 1403, so this difference is only 12 points. However, I would grant you for Harvard that the difference is probably something more than 12 points considering that more people apply that have 800M or 800CR than the number of acceptances they have. Harvard (and maybe the other four top schools too) could probably literally have an SAT avg of over 1550 if they were trying to maximize SAT avg, but doing so would make their class less interesting, less diverse and with worse sports teams. </p>
<p>If you have a 1400 SAT, you’re clearly qualified to go to Harvard. Having a 1520 SAT instead doesn’t necessarily make you more qualified without taking the whole package into consideration; something that many on here fail to take into account.</p>
<p>I think that if you have a 2150, you are capable of doing the work.</p>
<p>I don’t think anyone with below a 2100 should be admitted to Harvard for any other reason than the student is extemely poor and doesn’t have many opportunities.</p>
<p>minorities, legacies, and athletes should get no help.</p>