<p>Hey everyonee! My question is: Do top tier schools (like Wharton, Notre Dame, UVA…not HYPSM) actually reject people with slightly below average stats but perfect SAT/ACT scores? I looked on College Tracker and couldn’t find any of rejections like that. Thanks.</p>
<p>bump…</p>
<p>By “stats,” I’m assuming you mean your GPA.</p>
<p>Personally I’d say no, since there are so many things that determine your acceptance into a top tier college (GPA, Standardized scores, Extracurricular activities, Volunteer work, Athletics, Music, etc.)</p>
<p>An interesting thing is though, my brother’s friend had perfect SAT/SAT II Scores and she was even accepted into New York All State (An unbelievably prestigious music program, especially considering the fact that she was a violinist), but she was rejected from all of the Ivies (She attends Cornell Engineering). I don’t know what her GPA was, but she did go to a specialized school (Stuyvesant), and it’s hard to maintain a strong GPA with all of the rigor and competition. So maybe it is important.</p>
<p>i think what you’re asking is do they AUTOMATICALLY reject people with slightly below average stats with perfect SAT scores? probably not. 
and it depends. slightly below average for Ivies or slightly below average average? but probably not since there are many admission factors.</p>
<p>I meant slightly below average for Wharton, UVA, Notre Dame etc. I’ve got a 3.5 unweighted but perfect ACT. What do you think then?</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>GPA is most important. Wharton rejects the majority of 2400/36 candidates. </p>
<p>Whether a 3.5 leaves you competitive depends on rank, official or not. Being at or near the top of your class, unless you attend a very top school, is key. A 3.5 is top 2% at some schools and not even top 20% at others.</p>
<p>Penn as a whole is the most rank concerned school of all. Only 2% of admits were not in the top 10% at their high school. That’s very telling as it includes the almost half the class that are recruited athletes, URMs and legacies.</p>
<p>When I visited Vanderbilt the admissions guy was telling us how they deny perfect scores every year because of a lack of EC’s or other things.</p>
<p>Really - if you have SATs beyond a certain threshold they become immaterial. </p>
<p>For lower tiered schools, having really good SAT (and grades) can put you in line for merit money.</p>
<p>I’m confused…according to Wiki immaterial means “not cinsisting of matter”…I can assure you that my ACT exam was filled with matter. What exactly did you mean? Thanks</p>
<p>I disagree that scores beyond a certain point don’t matter. A look at any common data set shows chances of getting in rise as scores do.</p>
<p>Scores are not immaterial. But they never trump grades at highly selective schools. Grades/ rank are the much better predictor of how you’ll perform in college.</p>
<p>There are a lot of very bright underachievers who do much better on tests than over a four year period at school. These kids are likely to continue the pattern-- they are very smart but not the hardest workers.</p>
<p>Top Colleges want the very smartest hard workers. That’s the recipe for the future success of their alum.</p>
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<p>Contrary to popular belief, the Ivy League is actually comprised of eight schools. Cornell is one of them.</p>
<p>2college^2 just looking at Stanfords CDS - (I tried to cut/paste but the formatting was lost) the table lists it by 100 point increments. </p>
<p>Really - there is little difference between a 750 and an 800 when it comes to elite (or any) school. Possibly lower. no one is saying scores are immaterial, but squeezing out those last X points is just not worth it. Also, I think that higher grades/class rank are looked upon more kindly. Some people just do not work well with standardized tests.</p>
<p>Sorry. Let me rephrase that. She was rejected from all the more renown Ivies.
(Not saying that Cornell is a bad school, it’s a wonderful place).</p>
<p>EDIT: On a more off topic note, how do you quote others in your post?</p>
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Given that she’s an engineering student, Cornell is actually probably the most reputable Ivy. Only Princeton compares.</p>
<p>Here’s how you quote:
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<p>But remove the ! marks</p>
<p>test –</p>
<p>your “quote” advice failed me.</p>
<p>I copied to my clipboard what I wanted to insert. I then went to the board and typed an open quote, ’ " ’ and then tried to paste the sentence. Pasting didn’t work.</p>
<p>So, please provide a more detailed quoting for dummies. Thanks!</p>
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If that’s the case, you didn’t follow my advice. Remove the “!”</p>
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