Toss-up: UC Berkeley or Dartmouth College??!! for Engineering

[drax12]

<p>When did the bump up of average units per class at UCLA occur from 4 to 5? </p>

<p>If 3 classes per term, 5 units average, then -> 15 units per quarter -> 3<em>15 = 45 per year -> 45</em>4 years =180 requisite units to graduate ‘timely.’</p>

<p>If 3 classes per term, 4 units average, then -> 12 units per quarter -> 3<em>12 = 36 per year -> 36</em>4 = 144 after four years, units a shortage of 36.</p>

<p>Most non-science classes don’t have those extra credits laying around.</p>

<p>And I didn’t graduate that long ago that they didn’t have AP credits.</p>

[sentimentGX4]

<p>@ Drax
Yeah, things have probably changed since you were here. Most non-science/math/engineering courses are 5 units, now. We even have these popular freshman clusters (that span out an entire year) that are 6 units because people complained they were too time consuming. </p>

<p>If you’re in the College of Letters and Sciences, more GE courses will offer 5 units than 4. Note how entire majors such as English revolve around 5 unit courses.</p>

<p>[Schedule</a> of Classes: Unit Class Search Results](<a href=“http://www.registrar.ucla.edu/schedule/unitresult.aspx?termsel=11W&unitsel=5]Schedule”>http://www.registrar.ucla.edu/schedule/unitresult.aspx?termsel=11W&unitsel=5)</p>

[drax12]

<p>Here’s a link [a</a> page](<a href=“http://www.mcdb.ucla.edu/undergraduate/info_firstyear.php]a”>http://www.mcdb.ucla.edu/undergraduate/info_firstyear.php)…</p>

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So how do I get those 13 units in my first quarter? </p>

<p>Most courses at UCLA are four units, and some are five. Two four-unit courses and one five-unit course will do it, or three four-unit courses plus a Fiat Lux course, which is one unit. For instance, the following courses are all five units, so if you take one of them and two four-unit courses, you’ll be set: Life Sciences 1, English Comp 3, Statistics 13.

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<p>I didn’t do a check on hours/week, but as you said, if there’s a lot of time spent outside of class in research, studying in relation to hours per week, then I can see this.</p>

[drax12]

<p>I don’t think you can get fat on five-unit courses and take 3 per term. But if the point is, if one can graduate in 4 years or even less, I think it is. Most of those who don’t, don’t want to. UC is thinking about making at least some summer terms mandatory, like Dartmouth. I don’t think it’s necessary, but a student who needs to get in and out quickly can do so by going during the summer. And those who were highly accomplished in hs can speed through the system.</p>

[sentimentGX4]

<p>^I’m fairly confident that that question is a relic of the times. A Freshman would probably never have to worry about 13 units nowadays, especially if they’re fulfilling their GE requirements.</p>

<p>Click around some GEs. Even half of the “Science and Inquiry” courses offer 5 units now. -.-
[Schedule</a> of Classes General Education (GE) Search Results](<a href=“http://www.registrar.ucla.edu/schedule/geresult.aspx?termsel=11S&gecat=K00]Schedule”>http://www.registrar.ucla.edu/schedule/geresult.aspx?termsel=11S&gecat=K00)
[Schedule</a> of Classes General Education (GE) Search Results](<a href=“http://www.registrar.ucla.edu/schedule/geresult.aspx?termsel=11S&gecat=L00]Schedule”>http://www.registrar.ucla.edu/schedule/geresult.aspx?termsel=11S&gecat=L00)
[Schedule</a> of Classes General Education (GE) Search Results](<a href=“http://www.registrar.ucla.edu/schedule/geresult.aspx?termsel=11S&gecat=M00]Schedule”>http://www.registrar.ucla.edu/schedule/geresult.aspx?termsel=11S&gecat=M00)</p>

<p>I will concede that you’re right that there are a lot more 4 unit courses out there but they’re mostly upper divs with smaller class sizes and certainly weren’t a big part of my undergrad experience.</p>

[drax12]

<p>I don’t know what your point is anymore.</p>

<p>Is it can one get out taking 3 classes per quarter or not? You can’t get fat on 5 unit classes and come near graduation.</p>

<p>And I don’t know what the point of your last p was. What does units assigned to classes have to do with upper or lower division, ie, class size?</p>

<p>And I thought you were currently an undergrad, as you stated… ‘certainly weren’t a big part of my undergrad experience.’</p>

<p>Anyway, it’s not important. Let’s not bicker about non-consequential items; there are far too many more important things to be concerned about.</p>

[bluebayou]

<p>sry drax, never used the term, ‘calc for poets’… But I have picked up a term from U-Chicago: ‘physics for poets.’ :)</p>

[Jdawg9999]

<p>oh my gosh lemme clear this up now guys haahaaa:
I am neither a dude nor am I a lesbian.
Case closed, but I appreciate the 87 replies, guys:)
thanks.</p>

[UCBChemEGrad]

<p>Anything on CC with a Berkeley vs. __________ as the thread title generates a lot of responses. :)</p>