Tough to be Mormon candidate

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<p>To me the worst thing was his refusal to pay child support, forcing his kids to have to rely on charity to have their basic needs met…while he himself was drawing a Senate salary. </p>

<p>He got treatment, all right. The right treated him like royalty, and still do.</p>

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<p>There is a definite % of Americans who won’t vote for a woman for president, no matter whom she runs against. A woman candidate for president starts in a hole, not on level ground.</p>

<p>Add that to the fact that she is a Clinton, which is enough to make some people froth at the mouth at the mere mention of her name…</p>

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<p>My husband has indolent non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma–in remission, just like Thompson’s. The new treatments are pretty good–Rituxan has a great track record with NHL–but this is what my husband said: “I wouldn’t vote for anyone with cancer; I don’t want a president who’s going through chemo.” (He’s not big on Edwards either: “If his wife gets sicker and he’s president, he’s going to have to choose between the country and his wife.”</p>

<p>To respond to the original post: I actually thought that encounter showed Romney in a pretty good light. He didn’t get angry; he didn’t proselytize, he just offered to shake the man’s hand. </p>

<p>Me, I’m still hoping Richardson gets the nomination (on the D side); I want a president with some depth to his character. On the R side, I don’t like McCain’s stance on the war, but I do admire his integrity.</p>

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<p>Me too. I wish only the best for Sen. Thompson and sincerely hope that the expressions of optimism are correct. But before voting for him I will take a hard look at his running mate should he get the nomination.</p>

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<p>Stepford candidate. That’s what he has been programmed to do. “Will you shake my hand? Will you shake my hand? Anti-abortion. Will you shake my hand? Mexicans go home. Will you shake my hand? Will you shake my hand? More torture, we need to double Guatanemo. Will you shake my hand?”</p>

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<p>Some people call it “good manners” – a novel concept, apparently.</p>

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<p>Good manners? In a presidential election? With bare knuckle oppo warfare by the likes of Karl Rove? Puhleeze.</p>

<p>Presidential politics is a full contact sport. Always has been, as far as I can tell.</p>

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<p>As I said, it seems to be a novel concept to some people.</p>

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<p>Is it because I lean toward the Democratic Party that I find the Dems to have many great candidates this election (I’d be extremely happy with John, Bill, Hillary, or Barack) while the Reps have NOBODY who would tempt me to change my vote. Not “believing” in evolution??? That strikes me not as dumb - these guys are not dumb - but as pandering to a block of voters.</p>

<p>Just seems to me that the Republicans are in that pandering-to-the-base mode while the Democrats (love-em or hate-em) have deep, long-held beliefs in what they are saying.</p>

<p>Of course I could be biased… :)</p>

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<p>Hey, how come no one has mentioned Fred Thompson’s acting role in the ‘Wiseguy’ series on CBS-TV back in the late 1980s? He was slick as oil portraying a David Duke type of leader, ultimately revealed to be a conman spouting fire and brimstone just for the bucks. Great actor. Oh wait, we’ve elected one of those guys before for President. Whose next, John Gavin in the cabinet or Sonny Bono in the Congresss? Oh wait…</p>

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<p>His schtick when he moved from Washington to Tennessee to run for the Senate was driving around in a red pickup truck pretending to be a red neck. He talked about the traffic jam he wanted to cause when he drove his red truck there. Of course, he failed to mention that he had lived a few blocks from the Capital and worked as a lobbiest for more of his adult life before running for office.</p>

<p>It’ll be interesting to see how he does if he gets in the race.</p>

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<p>If only our founding fathers had shown better manners in Boston and not dumped all that tea in the harbor.</p>

<p>I think the problem in this country right now is that we’re too polite to the 28%-ers. The people who want us in a war even if it harms our own interests–and don’t want our soldiers to have mine resistent vehicles or better body armor because their taxes might go up a buck and a half. The UMass students, faculty, and guests had the right of it. These people should be social pariahs.</p>

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<p>Here is where we will never agree. The Boston Tea Party has absolutely no comparison to a political candidate shaking hands while campaigning. I also disagree strongly about the behavior of students and faculty (especially faculty!) at Umass Amherst to Andrew Card. Public, political events are one thing – treating a private citizen so rudely after INVITING him to receive an honorary degree just shows how uncivilized some people have become. And I will say that I can’t picture people behaving so rudely to a liberal civil servant – this level of utter and complete rudeness is reserved for those who are conservative. And bad manners is bad manners, no matter what your political affiliation. People I associate with just weren’t brought up that way.</p>

<p>For another point of view, see the “Diversity of Thought” thread. EK has it right – what ever happened to the idea of disagreeing about an issue and still behaving like a civilized human being?</p>

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<p>I guess I find it appalling that Rove is helping Romney and has been for years…now that guy is a civilized human being</p>

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<p>“I guess I find it appalling that Rove is helping Romney and has been for years…now that guy is a civilized human being”</p>

<p>The concept of disagreeing passionately while conducting oneself appropriately escapes you completely, doesn’t it? Did it ever occur to you that conservatives could feel as strongly about an issue as liberals do, but choose not to spit in your face to punctuate the disagreement? It can be true at the same time the you dislike Karl Rove or [insert name] but if you were introduced to him unexpectedly, it would be inappropriate to be other than courteous. Courtesy doesn’t equal approval.</p>

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This concept is one aspect of my definition of what it means to be an adult. It is possible to disagree with someone, without calling them names, insulting their background or throwing a temper tantrum.</p>

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<p>Really? I didn’t know this.</p>

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<p>Fred Thompson just hired Rove protege Tim Griffin. Griffin was Monica Goodling’s boss in Rove’s “oppo research” department. Griffin specialized in the GOP “caging” operation, where they systematically attempted to disqualify black voter registrations – tens of thousands per state.</p>

<p>At Rove’s urging, Griffin was appointed to be the US Attorney for Arkansas (without Senate confirmation) after Bud Cummins was fired (Cummins was one of the infamous eight). It is looking like most of the US Attorneys were fired for not pursuing “voter fraud” (i.e. disqualification of minority voters) cases vigorously enough.</p>

<p>Goodling took advantage of her immunity to finger Griffin for the RNC caging operation in her House testimony. Griffin is probably one of the more likely possibililities for an indictment.</p>

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<p>Speaking of Fred staff. Here are few photos of Fred with his trophy wife, the would-be first lady of the United States:</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.redkingpix.com/cgi-bin/ImageFolio4/imageFolio.cgi?action=view&link=Celebrities&image=042906Thompson.jpg&img=0&search=Fred%20Thompson%20Jeri%20Kehn&cat=all&tt=&bool=or[/url]”>http://www.redkingpix.com/cgi-bin/ImageFolio4/imageFolio.cgi?action=view&link=Celebrities&image=042906Thompson.jpg&img=0&search=Fred%20Thompson%20Jeri%20Kehn&cat=all&tt=&bool=or&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p><a href=“http://bp3.blogger.com/_MnYI3_FRbbQ/Rl75u6GM1BI/AAAAAAAAABk/QsJ3PvWohY4/s1600-h/thompson.bmp[/url]”>thompson.bmp&lt (image);

<p>She’s apparently four years younger than one of Fred’s kids from his first marriage.</p>

<p>Fred: you dog, you!</p>

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<p>Wow. This is a far more damning indictment of Romney than merely being Mormon. By the end of 2008 the country will have already suffered through two terms of having its president be a sock puppet for Karl Rove. I don’t think the Republic could last through a third term in a row.</p>