<p>Thank you for proving my point. A few tax dollars are worth violence and property destruction over, but the dirty politics that sacrificed 3000 GI’s lives and plunged a country into civil war, even a Boo is too harsh a sanction.</p>
<p>Sorry, but you have it backwards. The Republicans taking their tax cuts out of our soldiers’ hides shows how barbaric our nation has become. Booing Andrew Card shows that there is still some humanity and civilization left in us. </p>
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<p>He was invited for politic reasons, for what he did as a public figure. There was nothing private about it. It was like inviting an embezzler to be toasted for his success in scamming the elderly out of their homes and savings. Unacceptable.</p>
<p>I disagree strongly with Andrew Card going to the intensive care unit of George Washington Hospital and trying to strongarm the gravely ill attorney general into signing an authorization for unconsitutional wiretapping of US citizens.</p>
<p>Mr. Card deserves more than a resounding chorus of boos. He should be in jail.</p>
Thus speaks the far left. What ever happened to the rule of law? Just because you don’t like someone, you want to throw him in jail. Forget about whether a crime has been committed, or whether there’s been a trial – just skip all that and go directly to jail. Typical.</p>
<p>Conyat, I will no longer respond to any of your posts. You consistently twist everything I say, and choose to make derogatory remarks about my comments. Fine. But I will no longer participate in such nonsense.</p>
<p>When I first began participating here, I assumed a certain level of good faith and good will, since this is a forum for parents of adolescents. It’s taken me over a year to realize that that assumption has had no basis in reality. I remember making one of my first comments on a political thread and how shocked I was that I was called a name by one of our prolific experts–<em>I</em> actually apologized to that person if I said something to hurt that person’s feelings! No response. I tried to post in kind, but I find I’m not up to the task of playing at the nasty level of our liberal experts. I’ve tried to use humor–that hasn’t worked. I don’t belong here because I make mistakes. I have apologized to many of our prominent liberal posters for errors I’ve made–only to have my apology ignored, and even trumped out as proof of my diabolical motivations. They, apparently, do not make errors. I can in all honesty say I’ve never read one of our prolific liberal posters apologize for anything. I don’t belong in such lofty company.</p>
<p>Now for posting something like the above, I’ll be labeled as someone who is attempting to paint myself as a victim. Go right ahead. I don’t give a **** anymore.</p>
<p>Hereshoping, thank you for sharing your thoughts. I agree with you, except that I can think of a couple of liberal posters who HAVE behaved courteously and have apologized if they’ve crossed the line of civil behavior. I have also apologized when I think I’ve gone overboard – although I have REFUSED to apologize simply because someone doesn’t like my point of view, and has manipulated my posts to suggest that I’ve been rude.</p>
<p>CC has been an interesting experience. It’s the only online forum I’ve participated in, and I’ve found it to be generally positive. The nature of the debate has changed over the last year, imo. It’s far more confrontational, and there seems to be less of an interest in debate and more of an interest in copying the Jerry Springer show. I would hope, and indeed I expect, that adults can talk without shouting, debate without name-calling and disagree without demonizing. It has been my experience of late, that that’s not the case here.</p>
<p>Albert Einstein once said “The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results”. Since I value my sanity, I choose to cease responding to rabid posters.</p>
<p>IDad…omgosh…you’ve convinced me about Fred Thompson…rofl. I have a ‘no bimbos for First Lady’ policy…which also includes Bill Clinton ;)…so Fred’s out. </p>
<p>JK…I’m sure Fred’s wife is a very nice woman; but, in a strangely Britney Spear-esque way, she seems in desperate need of a makeover. I do have to say, as tee’d off as I am at George Bush, I have never been embarrassed that Laura Bush was our First Lady. She was lovely with those Spelling Bee kids last night. She just brings back nice memories of your favorite teacher from the 3rd grade…</p>
<p>"JK…I’m sure Fred’s wife is a very nice woman; but, in a strangely Britney Spear-esque way, she seems in desperate need of a makeover. "</p>
<p>I saw a picture of her yesterday for the first time and I was flabbergasted. She looked like a teenager with her grandfather. Which is, I know, catty of me, but I had never seen her before. And I’m catty.</p>
<p>Exactly. The FISA law and other provisions that require strict controls and accountability when the government seeks to intercept your and my e-mails. What happened to it was men like Card who “intepreted the Constitution” to mean that they could do whatever they pleased, even if it meant getting a gravely ill Attorney General to sign off on the continued warrantless spying that Justice had already said was unconstitutional.</p>
<p>Kind of a cross between a Tammi Fae Baker, Britney Spears, and the Hindenburg zeppelin look. I’m sure she’s a big hit with all the old rich white guys at the places that hire Ol’ Fred for speeches.</p>
<p>I’d bet on the extreme make-over. By the next time we see her, she’ll be wearing a demure business suit, with matronly hairstyle, and thumping a Bible while pouring a cup of fam’ly valyoos.</p>
<p>I hope she’s not as annoying as Guiliani’s bimbo trophy wife, who insists on being next to him in every photo. I noticed that at the end of the last Republican’s debate, she was the first on stage, practically hurdling the moderator’s table to rush up and grab her Rudy’s hand and smile for the cameras.</p>
<p>Here’s a little blurb from Newsweek’s blog in April about the dating life of the man the Washington press corps called “the Tennessee stud” when he was in the Senate:</p>
<p>I’m thinking that the Republican primary race will start getting really nasty as McCain, Guiliani, and Romney get their “oppo researchers” to start swiftboating Thompson. All three will be desperate to rough him up quickly. Romney’s not going to pass up the opportunity to push the “bimbo trophy wife” issue. It’s a two-fer-one for him with both Guiliani and Thompson.</p>
<p>Senate stud? Are my standards ridiculously high or something cause I don’t see that at all. As far as Giuliani’s wife, she has always annoyed me. She stalked that man (yes I know, he couldn’t have been caught if he wasn’t willing) in a totally unseemly way. (Says the Catty One)</p>
<p>Well, if we’re going to vote for candidates based on their spouses, I guess I’ll have to vote for Romney. I can see his wife promoting research for MS, and she certainly seems to be very nice. (AND well-mannered :eek:)</p>
<p>Along about eighteen and twenty-five
I left Tennessee very much alive
I never would have got through the Arkansas mud
If I hadn’t been a-ridin on the Tennessee stud</p>
<p>I had some trouble with my sweetheart’s pa
One of her brothers was a bad outlaw
I sent her a letter by my Uncle Fud
And I rode away on the Tennessee stud</p>
<p>CHORUS:
The Tennessee stud was long and lean
The color of the sun and his eyes were green
He had the nerve and he had the blood
And there never was a hoss like the Tennessee stud</p>
<p>One day I was ridin’ in the beautiful land
And ran smack into an Indian band
They jerked their knives with a whoop and a yell
But I rode away like a bat out of hell</p>
<p>Well I circled their camp for a time or two
And showed what a Tennessee hoss could do
And them redskin boys never got my blood
‘Cause I was a-ridin’ on the Tennessee stud</p>
<p>We drifted on down into no man’s land
We crossed the river called the Rio Grande
I raced my hoss with the Spaniards bold
Till I got me a skin full of silver and gold</p>
<p>Me and a gambler we couldn’t agree
We got in a fight over Tennessee
We jerked our guns, he fell with a thud
And I got away on the Tennessee stud</p>
<p>Well, I got as lonesome as a man can be
Dreamin’ of my girl in Tennessee
The Tennessee stud’s green eyes turned blue
‘Cause he was a-dneamin’ of a sweetheart too</p>
<p>We loped on back across Arkansas
I whipped her brother and I whipped her pa
I found that girl with the golden hair
And she was ridin’ on a Tennessee mare</p>
<p>Stirrup to stirrup and side by side
We crossed the mountains and the valleys wide
We came to Big Muddy and we forded the flood
On the Tennessee mare and the Tennessee stud</p>
<p>Pretty little baby on the cabin floor
Little hoss colt playin’ 'round the door
I love the girl with golden hair
And the Tennessee stud loves the Tennessee mare*</p>
<p>Thompson’s real reputation while he was in the Senate was that he was lazy. It could have been because he was out with the ladies, but for what ever reason he just didn’t work that hard.</p>
<p>This will be a problem in a presidential race. When Reagan ran the first time doing only one or two events a day it didn’t hurt him because the country didn’t want the president to do anything. The people were tired of Carter “doing things” this election cycle there is good reason to believe the country is ready for a president who can and will do something.</p>
<p>Thompson is lazy and unless he really has the “fire in his belly” he won’t last much beyond late Feb or early March ’08.</p>
<p>You made up a position that was 100% the opposite of mine, claimed it was my position, then made ugly remarks about me for taking a position you simply made up.</p>
<p>As for rule of law, it went out the window when the neocons started breaking civil service law to politicize DOJ hiring.</p>
<p>Hereshoping, you were my introduction to how the right treats the left at CC. When I posted in defense of the separation of church and state (my first political thread ever), you called me a host of very nasty names, including anti-Christian, a bigot, a social (ist?), an idiot, etc.</p>
<p>I wasn’t even talking to you; I was just defending our country’s values. This took my totally by surprise.</p>
<p>This was my introduction to how you personally treat people here, hereshoping, and I’ve responded to you in kind ever since. </p>
<p>It’s all still on the board for anyone who wants to page back and forth through this thread.</p>
<p>And this, I think, goes to the crux of what’s wrong in our country today. The neocons and the religious right simply will not accept that people different from themselves are entitled to the same rights and the same basic human dignity that they are. Even something once sancrosect like civil service hiring law is just another excuse to give your side unfair privileges over everyone else. </p>
<p>The unilateral name-calling you yearn to be able to do is just the tip of the iceberg.</p>