Transfer to Yale? Help...

[Bang2xg]

<p>Hello All,</p>

<p>To get started I’ll present a brief introduction:</p>

<p>I am a 21 year old European female pursuing an undergraduate degree in International Relations / Diplomacy. I’m in my first semester taking the usual lot of entry/intermediate courses and doing well. I expect to come out with a clean 4.0. The second semester starts sometime in February and I expect I’ll do just as well. I’ve already asked 4 professors and my dean about letters of recommendation and they assured my I’d get them with no problems. I’m interested in applying as a transfer to Yale in the same discipline for the 2010/2011 fall semester. </p>

<p>My questions / concerns:</p>

<p>1.) I have not taken the SAT/ACT tests as those requirements were waived as I came from Europe. Should I take them now? And will my having started college be a problem/factor?</p>

<p>2.) I have also not taken the TOEFL because I was able demostrate adequate enough proficiency in English to get it waived. Should I take it? Although I also believe that with some negotiation I can get this waived again.</p>

<p>3.) I attended secondary school in Europe, (Greece to be specific) and it will be rather difficult to obtain transcripts of any sort because they aren’t issued at most schools. The only thing I have is my school leaving certificate which has grades of courses and final exams. I know it is a requirement of international students to provide this but Im not sure how to prove this as a transfer applicant.</p>

<p>Any insights would be greatly appreciated. And does anyone know where the material / forms are located on the site to apply or have they not been uploaded yet?</p>

<p>As for a bit of credentials: </p>

<p>I was very well liked at my secondary school, I’m sure I would get glowing reviews from former teachers and my headmaster if I could only locate them. My grades were good. While in secondary school in Greece I was a member of the Greek Youth Parliament where I participated in debates of various issues relevant to EU counties and their citizens.</p>

<p>Currently at my university I am a staff writer for a montly newspaper on Diplomacy and International Affairs. I also certain to make editor by next semester. I speak 5 languages fluently and they are: Greek, Albanian, Italian, German and French. 6 with English of course. Im currently taking Arabic and excelling in it with plans for Russian in the near future. (Languages, I feel are a trait that any diplomat should master)</p>

<p>Sorry for the long post but if anyone can answer at least one or two of my questions it would be greatly appreciated. How are my chances?</p>

<p>Thank you.</p>

[entomom]

<p>Hello Bang and welcome to CC!</p>

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I’ve already asked 4 professors and my dean about letters of recommendation

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<p>You might want to reconsider sending 4 LORs from profs. Y asks for 2; they also ask for 2 teacher LORs for fr admissions and are pretty adamant:</p>

<p>[Applying</a> to Yale College | Frequently Asked Questions | Office of Undergraduate Admissions](<a href=“http://www.yale.edu/admit/faq/applying.html]Applying”>http://www.yale.edu/admit/faq/applying.html)</p>

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Is it OK if I submit supplementary letters of recommendation?
We strongly discourage students from submitting more than the two required letters from teachers and the letter from a guidance counselor or college advisor that accompanies the School Report Form. Additional letters can have the effect of cluttering an application file, often repeating what has been said elsewhere, and can leave a reader wondering which letters are the most important recommendations. Three, four, or even five letters from teachers rarely do more work for a candidate than two.</p>

<p>That said, we try to be flexible about the need, in isolated cases, for students to submit an additional letter. If you feel there really is a need to send an extra recommendation, one that will add substantially to your application, be sure it is labeled “supplementary” to avoid confusion.

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1.) I have not taken the SAT/ACT tests as those requirements were waived as I came from Europe. Should I take them now?

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<p>Are you sure that standardized tests are waived for your country? And if so, why do you want to know when to take them? </p>

<p>[Required</a> Testing | Transfer Students | Office of Undergraduate Admissions](<a href=“http://www.yale.edu/admit/other/transfer/testing.html]Required”>http://www.yale.edu/admit/other/transfer/testing.html)</p>

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International students are required to submit SAT I or ACT results unless they are studying outside the U.S. in a country without accessible testing centers (e.g. China and Iran). However, if you are currently residing or attending school in a country where the ACT with Writing or the SAT Reasoning Test is offered, you are required to take either test and submit official test results to Yale.

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And will my having started college be a problem/factor?

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<p>[Who</a> is Eligible to Transfer? | Transfer Students | Office of Undergraduate Admissions](<a href=“http://www.yale.edu/admit/other/transfer/who.html]Who”>http://www.yale.edu/admit/other/transfer/who.html)</p>

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<li> If you’ve gotten the TOEFL waived, why would you take it or have it waived again??</li>
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And does anyone know where the material / forms are located on the site to apply or have they not been uploaded yet?

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<p>[How</a> to Apply | Transfer Students | Office of Undergraduate Admissions](<a href=“http://www.yale.edu/admit/other/transfer/apply.html]How”>http://www.yale.edu/admit/other/transfer/apply.html)</p>

[Bang2xg]

<p>Entomom, Thank you for reply</p>

<p>First, I understand that can only submit 2 LOR’s from professors and 2 LOR’s from former teachers. I was just commenting that I had gotten the “OK’s” from 4 of my current professors and I would have to chose which ones to accept.</p>

<p>Second, in my experience, as with many other European students in American universities, SAT scores were not asked for because as one admissions counselor I spoke to stated:</p>

<p>“When reviewing applicants from certain European countries we understand the rigorous nature of ‘standard’ European secondary schools so in most cases the SAT is seen as a uneccesary supplement. If you have it fine, if not thats fine as well because you’re taking courses which are deemed ‘AP’ here anyway.”</p>

<p>I have checked on the college board site and they have a number of testing dates well in advance of the application deadline in March so I’ll definitely take it. My other question was whether or not my having alredy started a college curriculum and then taking the SAT would have an influence on my application.</p>

<p>And finally, I think I’ll be able to manage the TOEFL issue just fine.</p>

<p>Thank you, I’ll be waiting for kind reply.</p>

<p>B</p>