Transfering from ILR to AEM/CAS Econ, + General ILR Questions

<p>for certain internships/positions…employers come only looking for a certain college/major…</p>

<p>but there are plenty of opportunities for all majors to apply to…</p>

<p>with your ILR degree + business electives you will stand out (especially if you have a great gpa)</p>

<p>ps: you should also consider HOTEL…although if you’re not very photogenic or social it might not be the right place for you…</p>

<p>See the thing that appeals to me the most is I don’t have to study the same thing twice (undergraduate business school –> MBA). That’s the main reason I applied to the ILR and not AEM when I originally applied to cornell, the only reason I considered changing recently was I was worried about job climate and being able to get a job in business with an ILR degree.a feasible option for me from ILR?</p>

<p>Also on the matter of internships, I was wondering if I want a job in business do I get the advantage of Cornell business networking, or only that of ILR? Same thing for internships; do I only get to apply for consulting/ILR ones, or those available to business students as well?</p>

<p>Sorry I tried editing that last post but for some reason it keeps doing that weird that at the top.***</p>

<p>Anyways hmm well the internship thing is interesting I’ll make sure to ask the cornell reps about that when I visit next week. </p>

<p>Haha I actually am a very social person to answer your question. Hotel Management was a college that I could see myself taking some classes from, but just at first glance the major seemed very narrow minded, and I never really looked into it because I wasn’t sure what types of opportunities it would present me, and people told me it wasn’t the greatest option for me. Do you think it’s something I should look into vs ILR and AEM, or just a college I should take some classes from ?</p>

<p>well ILR is a lot more grounded in the social sciences…it’s very inter-disciplinary (psych, law, business, govt, humanities) which makes it great for law school</p>

<p>hotel is a more applied business curriculum (with attention to the service industry) but a lot of the courses are those you’d find in AEM</p>

<p>Yeah I just spent about 20 minutes going through the Hotel stuff and its pretty concurrent to what you just stated and yeah definately something I’d like to take some management classes from but overall the ILR course seems way more interesting. </p>

<p>Mhm as far as minors go I know a few of you guys are talking about it in the other thread; I know you can only double major in something in the same school, but I’ve been looking around and I haven’t seen any restrictions on minoring, just wanted to know are there any that I should know about?</p>

<p>law and society and maybe an unofficial aem minor </p>

<p>i am doing an international relations minor (more intense than law and society)</p>

<p>engineers are the only ones outside of CALS who can do an official AEM/Business minor: </p>

<p>[Cornell</a> Engineering : Business for Engineering students](<a href=“http://www.engineering.cornell.edu/programs/undergraduate-education/minors/business-for-engineering-students.cfm]Cornell”>http://www.engineering.cornell.edu/programs/undergraduate-education/minors/business-for-engineering-students.cfm) </p>

<p>but you have enough electives to take those courses too. </p>

<p>this is the list of AEM minors officially available to CALS students but again you can use your electives to take the same courses: </p>

<p>[Applied</a> Economics and Management/Cornell](<a href=“http://aem.cornell.edu/undergrad/minor.htm]Applied”>http://aem.cornell.edu/undergrad/minor.htm)</p>

<p>So to the original op question. IMO no need to transfer out of ILR. You have lots of options.</p>

<p>Let me give you a history of my D, a current junior in ILR. She is an ILR major, as stated, and an Information Science (CS) minor. She has also taken business courses such as Acct., Fin and Stat. As an ILR major, you have flexibility.</p>

<p>She had an internship last summer (after her sophomore yr) at Goldman Sachs. This year, she was offered a summer analyst position at JPM in trading. She said she was one of three Cornell students, out of many, choosen. </p>

<p>I asked her if one school dominated in her summer analyst internship students list. She said most schools, Harvard, Penn, Cornell, Standford, etc had about three).</p>

<p>She plans to apply to law sshool.</p>

<p>great to hear that morrismm! </p>

<p>you guys all are giving me great ideas about what to say when i get interviewed for this new recruitment brochure for ILR! LOL</p>

<p>morrismm that was very, very, very encouraging! Thank you very much =]</p>

<p>LOL ResurgamBell I was JUST looking at the site you posted. Yeah, looking at the list its kind of annoying because there are so many classes that are part of the Approved Advanced Electives list that I want to take that pretty much fulfill the requirements for 2 of the AEM minors, I don’t understand why the school wouldn’t just let you count the classes for a minor if you’ve already taken all the classes for it =/</p>

<p>** Sorry I just saw your post in the other thread about the letter from the Dean or the Head of the Department, yeah as long as its a note on my transcript I wouldn’t really care haha.</p>

<p>I thought there were no official minors for ILR??..lol</p>

<p>No there’s a page for it on their website:
[url=<a href=“http://www.ilr.cornell.edu/studentservices/curriculum/minors.html]Minors[/url”>http://www.ilr.cornell.edu/studentservices/curriculum/minors.html]Minors[/url</a>]</p>

<p>Lol I’ve like mastered the intricacies of the Cornell website over the last 3 days -_-x</p>

<p>ha ha thanx</p>

<p>Hey ResugamBell would you happen to know anything about whether you can minor in Philosophy across Colleges? I went to the Philosophy home page and couldn’t find anything o_O</p>

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<p>there is no official minor within the philosophy department. some majors will have their own minor (such as spanish) but not all. if you are interested in a philosophy minor you can sort of formulate your own using the curriculum that other colleges across the country have which offer phil. minors such as: </p>

<p>[Philosophy</a> Minor | Academic Catalog 2008-2009](<a href=“http://catalog.asu.edu/minors/pncm]Philosophy”>http://catalog.asu.edu/minors/pncm)</p>

<p>you will find that minors available to all cornellians such as Inequality Studies, International Relations, Law & Society, etc…are MULTI-DISCIPLINARY and are not focused on courses offered in 1 department…</p>

<p>Mhmm ic. Ok thanks very much that was a big help.</p>

<p>A few points:</p>

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<li><p>ILR has the second highest employment/grad school rate (to Hotel) and second highest average salary (to Engineering). </p></li>
<li><p>You can <em>truly</em> go into business with any degree, and ironically, a business undergrad degree is one of the least complementary and most redundant if you’re going to do an MBA; you don’t peripheral skills to leverage, as do engineers, mathematicians, CSers, or (yes) ILR grads</p></li>
<li><p>My impression was that the word on campus is that ILR is the best major for law school and b-school placement; applicants from econ and business majors are a dime-a-dozen. </p></li>
<li><p>CAS econ is intellectually different; you’ll be fulfilling liberal arts requirements, get disciplinary training, and can formally double-major. I believe Econ majors have the second-highest average starting salaries in CAS (to CS), but still lower than ILR. </p></li>
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<p>At the end of the day, your plan seems reasonable to me-- transfer out of ILR if it doesn’t suit you and you’re miserable, but without any prior information, there’s no reason to rule out ILR for AEM or Econ!</p>

<p>Wow RenTheSecond that was very, very helpful. Thank you very much =]</p>

<p>Reviving an old thread…</p>

<p>I know it’s been stated here and there in this thread, but I would like a TRUE answer.</p>

<p>How well is ILR is you’re strictly planning to go into the finance sector(ibanking, etc) and then ending up trying to get an MBA?</p>

<p>I’m thinking CAS econ vs ILR labor econ and that CAS has a much more broad scope of things to learn(i dunno what word to use). Like CAS covers a much bigger area than ILR, but ILR is pretty specific to its program of study. Can anyone let me know if this is true or not?</p>

<p>If you strictly have no interest in labor economics, organizational behavior, and public policy, why are you considering ILR?</p>

<p>You can definitely go into investment banking or the like from ILR and do very well. But why would you want to study something you have no interest in?</p>