<p>going by the posts in this thread, don’t I get to choose what classes i take? So im able to form my “major” classes? I do have interest.</p>
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<p>Funny, because that doesn’t sound like interest to me.</p>
<p>@cayuga- “How well is ILR is you’re strictly planning to go into the finance sector(ibanking, etc) and then ending up trying to get an MBA?” I didn’t mean for that to be EXACTLY what I want to do, but it’s one of the choices that seem open to me? if that made any sense. I’m not looking to get into a strictly undergrad business school program, the stuff I read about ILR(if true) sounds like something I would be interested in. Maybe not every single one of the courses I may have to take, but in general, yes it does seem like something I would like to take part it…sorry if my posts came off with a negative feeling
“ILR is more about the science of business (understanding groups, organizations, leaders, how to maximize all of this, etc).”</p>
<p>Is this not one some of ILR is?</p>
<p>so what exactly IS the ILR School?? I read some people have a economics concentration or w.e in their ILR major. I guess I don’t funny understand it.</p>
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<p>ILR is the science of work, not the science of business. There are inherent tensions and competing interests within the workplace – workers, managers, shareholders, government, public, etc. – and ILR attempts to impart students with a sense for those types of tensions, and how to study and manage them from different perspectives (union organizer, manager, government regulator, etc.)</p>
<p>If you’re interested in the actual science of business, I would recommend studying ORIE in Engineering.</p>
<p>i know at least 3 people who were in ILR that transferred into either CAS or CALS (AEM). one buddy of mine was in ILR and decided to major in math. the transfer into CAS seemed rather smooth, and he will either graduate on time or have to stay one extra semester. the 2 others transferred into AEM pretty easily, and one graduated a semester early with a 3.7 GPA. if your goal is a cornell degree, get here in whatever way you seem most appropriate. inter-school transfer is not that big of a deal and happens all the time rather easily.</p>
<p>@ CayugaRed2005- what school in Cornell did you graduate from?</p>
<p>The School of Industrial and Labor Relations</p>
<p>CRed05–sometimes interests and opportunities change. ILR was/is a perfect fit for D. She spent last semester at the ILO in Geneva- a very prestigious internship in Switzerland. Yet she is still interested in finance. She was offered, and accepted, a job as a trader at a top bank upon graduation this May. She is also still considering labor law in the future.</p>
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<p>No doubt that interests and circumstances change. And students from ILR end up being anything from English professors to doctors. But going into the program you <em>should</em> have a passing interest in things like the way employees interact with employers and government regulation of labor standards.</p>
<p>Agreed!!!</p>
<p>How much of an interest are you expecting these kids to have, CR2005? Most of their exposure to the topics covered in ILR has been limited to maybe 3 minutes of discussion in an AP US History class (along with broad discussions of employment in AP Macro, but certainty not labor economics, though I’ll admit that we did touch on a lot of issues directly related to ILR in some depth in my Sociology class, where we had more time thanks to the non-College Board tampered curriculum). I was in one of these history classes last year and, for the only exposure to American history that most top students are getting, it’s shameful how shallow the material is. I’d bet if you surveyed incoming ILRies before their first day of classes, more than half wouldn’t know who the Molly Maguires were or who the hell Joe Hill was or even who Andy Stern, who I believe I read somewhere (maybe ILR school literature, maybe the internet? too lazy to check) actually holds some sort of position at the ILR school in addition his day job as political powerbroker and representative of 2 mil + ppl, is. Obviously you’ve gone through the program and you’re more qualified to speak to this issue, but wouldn’t an interest in history, economics, policy making, and social sciences like psychology and sociology suffice, with the interest in the specifics of ILR coming once the student actually gets to campus?</p>
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<p>To be fair, I had to look up who the Molly Maguires were. </p>
<p>All I am basically expecting is a broad interest in the social sciences with an appreciation for some of the issues facing the political economy of employment. Students should be interested in a question like "What would happen if we raised the minimum wage?, “Is health care best provided through an employer-based insurance system?”, “How much do I need to pay a worker to ensure that they don’t leave for a competitor?”, “Has NAFTA been beneficial for Mexican workers?”, or even “How do I best manage a diverse workforce?”</p>
<p>I’m not saying they need to know an intricate amount of material regarding these questions, but they should be interested in reading about them when they pick up The Wall Street Journal or Mother Jones or whatever. And what I don’t like to see are students who have no interest in these types of questions and are only applying to the program because they see it as an avenue to go to Wall Street (or consulting, or what have you.)</p>
<p>I think what Cayuga is trying to get at is that ILR students should be there not becasue of exit opportunities provided, no matter where they may be (finance, law, etc); rather ILR students should be there because they have a general passin for studying the results of human interaction and the resulting implications in various stages of life. </p>
<p>I’m in ILR because I wanted an education that would allow me to learn, not train me for a future job in the vocational sense that an engineer or business undergrad is “educated”. I sincerely enjoy my classes that teach me about how the relationship between various humans is impacted by the constraints of society and how the reactions of these interactions changes the constraints of society. </p>
<p>That’s not to say that I don’t want to go into finance or law, but it’s not what I’m interested in studying. Also, I honestly believe ILR has the most lax curriculum at Cornell, meaning you have the freedom to take electives in whatever you want.</p>
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<p>Awesome. That’s what being an ILR student is all about.</p>
<p>I know this thread is old
my i was worried if applying to ILR instead of AEM or even ORIE was a bad decision
but this thread really convinced me that ILR would be the best educational path for me
bc i want to go to law school and obtain a MBA </p>
<p>of and CayugaRed2005 i saw your location of TRalfamadore & just had to comment on how i love Vonnegut too</p>