Transferring Out of NYU Stern to Northwestern/UPenn/Cornell etc.

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<p>Hello!</p>

<p>I’m a senior who is still in high school and I plan on attending NYU Stern for college. I was accepted to Berkeley, USC, UCLA, UMich, Boston College, and NYU Stern and denied/waitlisted at my reach schools (Northwestern/Duke/UPenn etc.). After visiting all these schools, I felt as though I fit NYU the best and I liked the idea of going to school in the city.</p>

<p>Now, my question is, after my freshman year at NYU, if I don’t like it there, how hard would it be to transfer into another top business school(such as Northwestern/Duke/UPenn/Cornell/Georgetown etc.)? Assuming that I do fairly well in college like a 3.6+ GPA.</p>

<p>I realize that I have not even started college yet, nor have I even graduated high school. But I’m curious to know whether or not I have options if i suddenly have a change of heart and want to have a “traditional” college experience.</p>

<p>This is by no means a “CHANCE ME” thread. I’m just curious to see how feasible transferring into one of these schools would be.</p>

<p>Note: If it helps, I go to school in a pretty good public school in Southern California. 4.0 unweighted GPA and 4.38 weighted GPA, 2260 SAT I, 800 Math II, 800 Chinese, 740 US. Also took 7 AP tests with (all fives and 2 fours).</p>

<p>THANK YOU!</p>

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<p>(1) The only business school that you’ve listed that’s better for undergraduate is Wharton. The top 5 undergraduate business programs are typically recognized as Wharton, Sloan, Haas, Ross and Stern. I don’t even think Northwestern has an undergraduate business program. </p>

<p>(2) It’s almost always harder to transfer into a school than it is to get in as a freshmen – so if you were rejected as an incoming freshmen, unless you are an absolutely stellar applicant, you’re likely going to be rejected again. </p>

<p>(3) If you like NYU, and the idea of going to school in the city, I have no idea why you’re already concerned about transferring out.</p>

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They actually kinda do. Not really a “business” program, more like a program in financial economics or managerial analytics. The program is taught by Kellogg profs and requires tons of quant pre-reqs (cos the courses are grad-level).
<a href=“http://www.kellogg.northwestern.edu/Certificate.aspx[/url]”>http://www.kellogg.northwestern.edu/Certificate.aspx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Learn something new everyday. Thanks for that bit of information :)</p>

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<p>I’m going to disagree with NYU2013. I attended NYU this year and am attending Cornell next year.
Here’s what I noticed:
The transfer pool at most schools is a lot weaker (notable exceptions being Stanford and Columbia; I’ve heard that the types of students who are accepted to Stanford as transfers are typically rockstars who went to HYP and succeeded there but decided they liked Stanford better). <em>Most</em> students at T1 schools like it where they are. They’ve decided the school they are at is good enough. Moreover, transferring is taking an extra step of initiative over other kids. How many students from your high school threw out an application to Harvard even though they KNEW they wouldn’t get in? The point is that the applicant pool this time around is going to be generally less polished, smaller, and from a worse school than you. I don’t have hard statistics or facts supporting my point, but I guess a compelling argument is that in freshman admissions, the admissions are less self-selecting in that the top students who get into HYP take away admissions at top 20 schools from other kids and those same kids who take those spots are not gunning for your spot at a slightly lower ranked school. Whereas in transfer admissions, most students are generally trying to upgrade their situation, which means moving from a tier 3 to tier 2 or a tier 2 to a tier 1 school. Thus moving from a tier 1 school to another tier 1 school is that much easier. </p>

<p>Take what I say with a grain of salt:

  1. I did NYU stern and I guess I decided I didn’t really fit in that well, as I quickly realized that I didn’t like the idea of doing undergraduate business (and pidgeon-holing myself at that) and that I didn’t particularly enjoy the city or the competitiveness of my classmates - by that I mean the constant one-upmanship and lack of collaboration.</p>

<p>2) The stern curve: People exaggerate about it a lot, but it’s definitely possible for you to succeed. The classes for your major can be somewhat difficult to get an A in because everyone is working as hard as you, but in your CAS classes like WTE, Calc, NatScience, and Texts and Ideas are easy enough that if you are a competent student you should be able to get an easy A because (without sounding elitist) kids in the other schools tend to invest less effort and are at times less qualified students than you are. </p>

<p>3) NYU doesn’t have a traditional college feel at all. I liken NYU to attending a graduate school. With the exception of the deadbeats who stay in their rooms all day, most students have internships or jobs that they work after class and, from my experience at least, the vast cross-section of NYU don’t do extracurricular activities. It’s not really the fault of the school or even the student body, it’s just the structure of a university without a closed campus. With the exception of Stern, Tisch, and possibly people in smaller majors at NYU, you’re not really going to know anyone. And it doesn’t help that there are no real places for you to congregate.</p>

<p>I’m not trying to discourage you from going to NYU, because Stern is definitely a great school and will assuredly help you fulfill your aspirations of working in business - provided you are willing to put your effort into it (because believe me, there are a lot of distractions) - but NYU definitely requires a certain type of student. I think if NYU were more selective they’d be able to weed out individuals who don’t quite fit (like me), like how Princeton or Stanford are able to. Personally speaking, I didn’t get into my top choice when I applied the first time around (Cornell) and when choosing between Berkeley, USC, UCLA, and Stern, I decided that I would just go to the most selective. </p>

<p>TL;DR
Stern is competitive/cutthroat, the city can be rough (but also rewarding), and if you truly desire, transferring to another top university is definitely doable. Also if you are a guy there are a ton of cute girls and not enough straight guys to chase them. Assuming you are a heterosexual male, your biological fitness will never be higher. </p>

<p><em>Note</em> If you plan on transferring at all, try and get some of the ground work out of the way: Write a personal statement, think about the professors you’d like to write your recommendations, and try to get your financial aid figured out! Also retake any standardized tests that you feel are weak. But I also warn you not to hastily make the decision to transfer. Most NYU students spend the first month or two trying to figure out their niche, which is somewhat more difficult to do considering the vast size. If you haven’t found your niche by the 3rd month, you might find that you don’t fit in at NYU, and that’s completely okay.</p>

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<p>Hey MT8989! </p>

<p>I read your post and it helped me A LOT! I was wondering, how hard is it to get a decent GPA at Stern and transferring to Tier1/ Tier 2 schools? Like you, I got into USC, UCLA, Berkeley, and Stern but i chose Stern because I was so “set” on doing finance. if you don’t mind me asking,</p>

<ol>
<li><p>What was your GPA in Stern and how hard was it to maintain it?</p></li>
<li><p>Are my test scores good enough to get me into Northwestern / Cornell / UPenn and those kinds of schools as a transfer student? (SAT I: 2260 Math: 780, Reading: 680, Writing: 800, SAT II Math II: 800, Chinese: 800, US History 740, and two 4’s and five 5’s on AP’s).</p></li>
<li><p>Will extracurriculars in my freshman year of college have a significant impact if i plan on transferring to another school my sophomore year? </p></li>
</ol>

<p>Thanks guys for your responses! They really help a lot.</p>

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<p>Actually, if you look at transfer statistics, there’s almost always a lower acceptance rate for transfer students, especially among the top schools. And, it’s very presumptuous of you to think that transfer student stats are somehow lower, or overall ‘less polished’ than freshmen who entered – SAT scores of transfer students may, in some cases, be somewhat lower, but their college GPAs are usually quite good, especially for the top schools; and I have no idea where you get the notion that they are ‘less polished’</p>

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<p>NYU2013, i appreciate your responses, but I always see you quipping back at other people who are trying to help. MT8989 is just trying to help and give me advice because he knows exact what i’m asking for. I know you absolutely LOVE NYU and think NYU is better than almost every other school, hence your screen name, but I’m not here asking why I should attend NYU. So please, let other people give advice without you having to make so witty remark that sounds so condescending. He’s just trying to help.</p>

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<p>“Also if you are a guy there are a ton of cute girls and not enough straight guys to chase them. Assuming you are a heterosexual male, your biological fitness will never be higher.”</p>

<p>■■■■■ nicely put</p>

<p>and @ OP, im sure you would have a good chance at xfering to the schools you have listed. NYU is a good school, and if you keep high grades the first year and fufill the school’s transfer requirement maybe even build on your extrecurrics a bit…im sure you would have a decent chance.</p>

<p>But I do also believe that its harder to xfer into a school than enter as a freshman for some of the schools you have listed.</p>

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<p>@meloanthony15</p>

<p>I do not appreciate your response at all; nor do I think ‘NYU is the best school’. My response was merely to address MT8989’s as to how most of the time transferring into a school is NOT easier than getting in a freshmen, contrary to his or her statements – as most data shows that transferring into a school is almost always more competitive among the top schools than trying to get in as a freshmen. </p>

<p>Providing opinions which are not backed by data is NOT helpful – but apparently, since you think opinions which are not backed by data are more helpful than actual data, I’ll stop providing you with information and let you rely on other’s opinions. </p>

<p>You posted here asking for advice and information – I’ve attempted to provide you with accurate information and correct other posters who have provided inaccurate information – however, apparently you do not appreciate data-based information and instead prefer inaccurate opinions.</p>

<p>I’m terribly sorry for trying to provide you with accurate information as to how difficult/easy or otherwise feasible it is to transfer – how terribly silly of me to provide accurate information.</p>

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<p>No problem, NYU2013! I appreciate your understanding. Thank you!</p>

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<p>Lol what?..^^^</p>

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<p>yea lol i dont get it either but sure</p>

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<p>He said sorry and I said no problem! I’m not here to argue. I’m here on college confidential for the same reason everyone else is here for: to get information. MT8989 has helped immensely</p>

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<p>It is actually a sarcastic response (as it is harder to convey through text) and not an apology.</p>

<p>Hes referring to how you do not want his info even though it comes from hard solid facts and statistics whereas mt8989’s where it comes from opinions (which you seem to prefer).</p>

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<p>^^^ Yeah haha I guess we were the only ones that got it…</p>

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<p>Apparently not only is objective data useless to the OP; apparently sarcasm is completely lost too. </p>

<p>Hint: If you don’t want objective data and information, don’t post on an online help forum which is intended to provide just that. When you want speculation and opinion, ask your parents. I’ve attempted to provide you with objective information, which you’ve thrown back in my face as being “unhelpful”; so next time, skip the online forum, save everyone the trouble of trying to actually help you – you might as well ask your pet goldfish since you apparently don’t want accurate information and in so doing you’ll save everyone time and effort.</p>

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<p>Great idea! I’ll ask my pet goldfish later when i get home. Thanks NYU2013, you’ve been really helpful!</p>

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<p>NYU 2013- I am a stern grad 1980! Stern was called the Tisch School of business back then HA! I really enjoyed reading your comments on the Stern School. I am amazed that in 32 years nothing has changed! Stern was competitive and yet students were disconnected due to the lack of a cohesive campus. Being a born and raised New Yorker and living in the city was just my lot in life though, so I accepted it. I have never regretted having attended NYU ,but I find it interesting that while the school skyrocketed in ratings and reputation in the 32 years somehow the student experience , at least for you , is the same as mine.</p>