Tufts and Affirmative Action

<p>Does Tufts give a darn about Affirmative Action?
For some reason I feel like the school doesn’t, and thus I feel like I would have a greater chance at Harvard than I do at Tufts…
So, to your knowledge, does Tufts care about Affirmative Action?</p>

<p>(I’m a hispanic female, by the way, interested in engineering)</p>

<p>Every school practices affirmative action. Recently, the benefits of being Hispanic has dropped significantly while the benefits of being black is stronger than ever.</p>

<p>Though being both Hispanic and a female would be a HUGE boost for acceptance to any engineering program in the United States. But Harvard and Tufts are both liberal arts oriented - Harvard doens’t even have a undergrad engineering school while Tufts’ is ranked really low. Have you considered schools such as MIT, Caltech, Rice, UC Berekley, Duke, etc?</p>

<p>Good luck!</p>

<p>Why do you say that the school doesn’t care about affirmative action? Do you have any facts to back that up?</p>

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<p>Actually it does. </p>

<p><a href=“http://www.deas.harvard.edu/undergradstudy/[/url]”>http://www.deas.harvard.edu/undergradstudy/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Our engineering program is quite good in what it offers - the low ranking is attributed to a number of factors, mainly the same reason why liberal arts schools aren’t widely acclaimed for their science education: graduate research output and recognition. Now I’ll tell you that the harvard school of engineering isn’t in the top 10 (in the top 30 I believe, it was 30 a few years ago), but it’s harvard! Why? No one knows about it, but rates it well on peer assessment because it’s harvard. Tufts suffers from its small program. It is simultaneously its strength as well as its weakness.</p>

<p>To answer your question, Tufts does practice affirmative action, but it’s not an extremely significant factor in admissions decisions as it’s highly contextual and probably more focused on financial background.</p>

<p>nice, that i have found a thread with Tufts Engineering program. So, can u guys tell me more abt Tufts Engineering programs (electrical or computer engineering). I heard that there is kind of more teaching and lecture and very little research with engineering programs. is that right?</p>

<p>iwant2go2college,</p>

<p>I am curious why you feel this way about Tufts. This is more than an academic question. We are a bi-racial family, and our daughter is Mexican-American, though still a few years away from college apps.</p>

<p>McDonalds77- Yes, I have thought about MIT, (the other schools are too far), and I do plan to apply there. </p>

<p>fingerscrossed- I never said it as a fact, I said it “seems”… that’s the whole point of this post, to see what you guys, that know more about Tufts than I do, have to say.</p>

<p>Snuffles- Yeah, I know that race isn’t a HUGE plus factor, and I know that it wouldn’t be fair for a wealthy black/Hispanic person to get in b/c of AA, because to me that defies the whole purpose of AA.
I am however an extremely poor Hispanic person, that’s why when I read the topic of one of Tufts’ required short-essays, it put a smile on my face.</p>

<p>Cami215- I feel this way because of trends I’ve noticed in the college app of people in my school, for instance Hispanics/Blacks getting into ivies and not Tufts, in more than one occasion.</p>

<p>“Percent of admitted students who are Asian American: 16
Percent of admitted students who are African American: 5
Percent of admitted students who are Hispanic/Latino: 8”</p>

<p>Taken from the “fun facts” section on the class of 2010 website.</p>

<p>8% is pretty high I’d say :O</p>

<p>So I guess the assuptions I made were wrong…and that’s good :)</p>

<p>They have some pretty interesting statistics on that website, mostly the number of late applications every year :)</p>

<p>hehe, could you please give me the link? I can’t seem to find it</p>

<p>actually, never mind lol</p>

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<p>While I’m not an engineer, I think this seems to be the case. The research is not evenly distributed among various departments, with our biomedical probably being the most active as it works closely with the biology department but also utilizes the mechanical department for testing strengths of biomaterials etc. But again, this is conjecture based off of what I’ve seen.</p>

<p>is it true, what someone said in the 101 things to know thread? that basically everyone in the engineering department is a nerd?</p>

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<p>Really? That’s news to me. It’s hard to play generalizations, but there are as many jock/frat engineers as there are those that keep themselves locked up in their rooms. It’s impossible to categorize everyone and in general it’s impossible to tell by physical appearances whether or not someone’s an engineer or liberal arts student. Most of the time at least :)</p>

<p>Former engineer here…</p>

<p>First of all, if you think that being a woman will get you in the door, honey, you’re in for a rude awakening. That may be the stereotype, but I’ll disabuse you of that one right now. Women engineers actually have higher stats than male engineers; generally, they don’t even apply unless they are very qualified, while men will apply anyway. SATs also under-predict women’s performance in college and over-predict men’s performance. So the whole “women are admitted at higher rates into engineering” thing is a myth made up by men who got rejection letters. I got into Tufts engineering because of my straight As and perfect SAT score, not because of my double-x chromosome. </p>

<p>Second, there is no affirmative action on your diploma. People do drop engineering; there is no shortage of weed-out courses. Tufts does not accept people who are not qualified. Affirmative action matters a LOT less for engineering; if you can’t do the work, then you won’t be an engineer.</p>

<p>Third, overall, Tufts practices affirmative action for men. It tries to retain a gender balance with the university as a whole; as more women than men apply and they tend to be more qualified, men have an easier chance of getting in.</p>

<p>Fourth, what makes you think that Tufts has a high percentage of women in engineering because it takes unqualified or underqualified women? The reason that I loved Tufts and wanted to apply there is because it’s notoriously friendly towards women, in a way that its neighbour in Cambridge is not. I know more women in my high school who applied to Tufts engin. than men who applied. They work hard to recruit top women.</p>

<p>Fifth - please realize that every time you say that “affirmative action” will help you get through the door, you insult every single person like you who got in on their own merit but can be dismissed with “affirmative action.” I was as or more qualified than every man who gave me the “they only took you because you’re a woman” line. As I said, given the number of weed-out courses, people’s attitudes change afterwards: if you make it through engin., it’s because you’re smart, tough, and worked your butt off. Rude awakening is in store for you, because your gender isn’t going to make it the cake walk you expected. There’s a reason why women engineers are highly respected in the working world.</p>

<p>Hi
I will be joining tufts in the electrical engineering department for my masters and was hoping if any one else will be joining too…
Can any tufts alumni (if any) throw some light on the prog</p>

<p>That’s a bit harsh… I don’t believe tufts to be a racially dependent school, so if you are qualified, I am sure that they would be more then happy to accept you.</p>

<p>Actually, on an article I read a few months ago, the average statistics for women who get into MIT were much lower than the stats for men who get in. I’m sure Tufts ENGINEERING would have similar statistics.</p>

<p>Tufts practices AA for male in the college of arts and sciences and for women in the college of engineering.</p>

<p>I personally believe that AA is reverse-racism, and that it should be stopped in the US. But AA DOES exist and there are nothing wrong for someone who would benefit from AA to bring her expectations up. Obviously she cannot just sit on her butt and expect to have stuff handed to her, but if being a woman would get her into a school that she would have been rejected if she were a male, what’s so bad about getting her hopes up for it?</p>

<p>“That’s a bit harsh… I don’t believe tufts to be a racially dependent school, so if you are qualified, I am sure that they would be more then happy to accept you.”
EVERY school practicies AA. A survey, taken by Princeton students last year, proved that being black gave you, what equals to an average of a 140 point SAT advantage. The link was posted on collegeconfidential one or two months ago. Search for it and read it. You’ll be surprised…</p>

<p>ariesathena- The reason why I mentioned that I was a hispanic female was because I know that it would give me an advantage in GETTING ACCEPTED and as McDonalds said, why not mention it if it is going to help.
Obviously there is no AA after one gets in college/universities. Being hispanic (not in all cases, but in most) implies other things: living in under privilaged areas and the such. I have to share a two bed-room apartment with two of my sisters, I have to work to help support myself, and I have to put up with c<strong>p every single day of my darn life.(blasting music, drunk people, people smoking illegal things, fights, cops every two seconds) I know pretty darn well that if I live in the suburbs with a room to my darn self and my sole responsibily was to make my parents proud and get good grades and do some ECs, I know for a fact that my GPA would be a lot higher.
“Rude awakening is in store for you, because your gender isn’t going to make it the cake walk you expected.” No s</strong>t. The point of AA is to give qualified underprivleged students the chance to compete with rich-tutored-surburbians-snobs, to me it’s not fair that some people get tutored and other not.
Once I actually get into the college, I know that it’s going to be completely different, because I know that at last I’m going to have the tranquility to HW and study. So I actually expect better grades in college.
“There’s a reason why women engineers are highly respected in the working world.” And by the way, that sentence completely contradicts the whole point you were trying to make. </p>

<p>And with that said, I feel that it’s so unfair when rich blacks and hispanics get in with low stats. </p>

<p>McDonalds-was the thread posted in the Princeton page?</p>