Tuition rate going up

<p>What a surprise. Once again, us out-of-state students get screwed.</p>

<p>Regents</a> approve a 1.5-percent tuition increase for in-state students, 3-percent increase for out-of-state students | The Michigan Daily</p>

<p>Why are you surprised that they shift the burden of the inability to pay for the fair proportion of instate students' education by a pathetic state on OOS students? You should be used to that by now.
I cant help but smile from deep down in my heart every time I read or hear statistics in the local news claiming that in-state students continue to leave this crap state in droves after they graduate. This state deserves it for not paying its part of the bill.</p>

<p>It is really ugly when you put actual dollar amounts to the increase. From the next paragraph in the article:</p>

<p>"The vote translates into a net increase of $178 for in-state students and $1,064 for out-of-state students."</p>

<p>yeah really guys, I don't know why people complain about OOS being at a disadvantage at so and so. Its a state school..that means it gets funded publicly, and therefore is only fair that instate students get better benefits in tuition rate and admission chances.</p>

<p>flip the coin to the other side, there's no doubt going to be someone in michigan wanting to go to your state school so bad but complains about the OOS tuition and lower admissions chances. You people need to stop complaining, theres nothing wrong with the picture.</p>

<p>^^^
There is PLENTY wrong with the picture. Take a look at the difference between in-state and OOS rates at some comparable state flagship universities, then look at the difference at UM. Nothing wrong with a state charging more for OOS students but why does it seem that UM is raping and pillaging OOS students? The answer is what is wrong with the picture: Because they can.</p>

<p>OOS tuition is already so expensive an extra 1k won't make much of a difference lol</p>

<p>You chose to come here.</p>

<p>^ I chose to come here at a cost of attendance of $39936. Within 3 years, my cost of attendance is $49451. Outpaced inflation by a wee bit you say? </p>

<p>The reason is again due to the state's pathetic funding. The logic behind in-state students paying less to attend a state university is that the state supposedly would foot the other part of the bill. The pathetic state of michigan isn't doing that. Just look at the state's funding by percentage of the budget. It has been declining steadily for the past 30 years.</p>

<p>^^^You should have gone to Penn. What a huge mistake!</p>

<p>Now you know why OOS numbers keep climbing; no-one should be shocked at this....the bigger problem is that this HAS to influence the diversity both demographically and geographically of the OOS population as the COA increases.....just how many wealthy NY/NJ/CT etc. kids can they accept to hit the yield they want to support this?</p>

<p>my FA better go up when they release it in a few days</p>

<p>This is a pretty tame increase compared to UCLA (32% over two years), so don't start complaining. Be thankful you have the opportunity (and the money) to attend a nice university and get a degree that will open many doors for you.</p>

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There is PLENTY wrong with the picture. Take a look at the difference between in-state and OOS rates at some comparable state flagship universities, then look at the difference at UM. Nothing wrong with a state charging more for OOS students but why does it seem that UM is raping and pillaging OOS students? The answer is what is wrong with the picture: Because they can.

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<p>Uh, every single "comparable" state school also has a CoA of ~50,000...</p>

<p>UMich: $46,999
UVa: $46,097 to $47,007
Berkeley: $53,923</p>

<p>I think Michigan probably has the most generous aid for OOS students too.</p>

<p>When I went to U-M, tuition increased double digit every year. 3% doesn't sound so bad.</p>

<p>Assuming room & board are the same for both IS & OOS lets compare tuition on the three schools you chose.
According to College Board:
In-state / OOS
UMich: $11,659 / $34,937 (2009)
UVa: $10,628 / $32,902 (2010)
Berkeley: $8,325 / $30,346 (2009)
There is no way Michigan meets 100% need of OOS students. Isn't that the commitment of UVA?</p>

<p>Michigan State U: $10,880 / $27,343
Seem as though it costs the state of Michigan $800 less to educate an instate resident at MSU compared to UM, but $7,500 less to educate an OOS student. Wonder why? Same tax $ from the same state?</p>

<p>^
They are two different schools! That's why it doesn't cost the same. A degree from umich is not equal to a degree from msu.</p>

<p>Hmm..not surprising that U-M does this again. But I agree with everyone else. This tuition raise is relatively tamed compared to the previous years (~5% raise). At the same time, I am a little tired of people coming to the defense of U-M. Sure, U-M is a public school, and it is supported by the state of Michigan. But the difference between in-state and out-of-state tuition is not justified. The difference comes to 24K per year. Now, I highly doubt any middle-class family pays 24K worth of income taxes to the state of Michigan every year. Another comment about the article. I read this sentence almost every year, "Many students and their families will pay less to attend the University in the coming year than they did last year." What type of aid does U-M give out? Loans. So I guess U-M is very generous for increasing the amount of loans it offers? Or maybe it just increases its revenues.</p>

<p>Also I wouldn't overemphasize the prestige of U-M. Sure, U-M can open doors for you, but for most people, it doesn't. Most of my friends in the B-School, which is ranked #12 according to U.S. news, find it really difficult to find internships, etc, and they have around a 3.7 GPA. </p>

<p>Just my two cents for OOS students applying to U-M this coming application year. I love my undergraduate experience here. You meet some amazing people here, and the environment really pushes you. But I, in no way, think it was worth the cost unless your wealthy or get a scholarship. Apply to smaller private schools.</p>

<p>ok guys, complain all you want about the differences between OOS and instate, a lot of things in life isn't fair, just have to work around it, thats the way it is for everyone.</p>

<p>the massive tuition difference between OOS and instate is the reason why you really need to have both feet planted on the ground if you decide to attend U of M. Unless your parents are very wealthy or you get significant financial aid, choosing U of M over a less-expensive school is going to change the way your financial status looks like after college, probably for the worse.</p>

<p>Just browse CC and look at the number of people just DYING to go to "_______ University". Its important to think practically in addition to emotional attachment to X school when choosing an expensive OOS state school or a nearby less-expensive school.</p>

<p>I think Michigan's tuition is perfectly reasonable. Michigan's peers (the Ivies, Cal, Chicago, Duke, Georgetown, Johns Hopkins, Northwestern, UVa etc...) are no cheaper, especially when you factor in R&B. Schools like UIUC and UT-Austin are also quickly catching up. And although UVa claims to meet 100% of need, let us remember one very important fact; UVa only provides aid to 27% of its entire undergraduate student population. That's much lower than Michigan, which provides aid to 46% of its students. </p>

<p>At the end of the day, it is about supply and demand. There are enough very highly qualified and wealthy people out there that are willing to pay Michigan's OOS tuition...why should Michigan turn them down in favor of students who cannot afford attending? It is not fair, but it is the American way (Americans hate Europe's socialist model).</p>

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Your reply didn't answer the question. Let me try again: WHY does it cost the state of Michigan $800 less to educate an instate resident at MSU compared to UM, but $7,500 less to educate an OOS student? Clearly they are different schools and that should account for WHY it costs Michigan $800 less to educate an IS student at MSU than one at UM. But WHY does it cost $7,500 less to educate a OOS student at MSU than at UM if they are both attending the same college? Shouldn't it also cost $800 less for an OOS student?</p>