<p>You need like a 31 or 2100 act to get into the honors program at Tulane. However, tulane’s average act is a 30 and average act is close to a 2100, yet tulane’s website says only 10 percent of applicants are admitted to the honors program. </p>
<p>I think Tulane is lying to make itself and its honors program appear more selective than it actually is; way more than 10 percent of applicants get into the honors program.</p>
<p>“A record 34,000 students applied for admission to Tulane’s class of 2012. The average SAT score of the class was 1365, marking a rise of approximately 30 points above the average of the class of 2011. In December 2008, the Tulane admissions office reported that, as of the Thanksgiving holidays, it had received more than 32,800 applications for the class of 2013, almost equaling the 34,000 received last year for the entire admissions period running through mid-January. Consequently, the admissions office expects the class of 2013 to be the strongest in the university’s history, with an average SAT score approaching 1400.”</p>
<p>"Admission statistics
2009 undergraduate applications: 40,000[35]
2009 freshman class size: 1,400[35]
SAT scores (middle 50%): 18802150[35]
ACT scores (middle 50%): 2832[35]
Average SAT/ACT: 1365/31
Acceptance rate: 27%[35]
75% of Tulane’s student body comes from more than 500 miles (800 km) away.[3] "</p>
<p>“Admission and Retention
Each year about ten percent of the entering freshmen class are admitted to the Program on the basis of their high school records and standardized test scores. Students not admitted to the Program as incoming freshmen may apply after completing one or more semesters at Tulane. (Application forms are available in the office, 105 Hébert.) After the first semester the criterion for admission and retention is a cumulative grade point average of 3.3 for freshmen, 3.45 for sophomores, and 3.6 for juniors and seniors.”</p>
<p>You can read this too. Students would have zero motivation to lie about their stats, and I know for a fact that plenty of people get into the Honors program with a 31 ACT and 2070 SAT.</p>
<p>Tulane is making their Honors Program appear more selective than it really is to make it appear more prestigious or desirable. Or maybe something ever fishier is going on…</p>
<p>mmmm angry that you were not accepted? I think so. For your information, I have an ACT higher than a 31 and was admitted, however, I was not extended an offer to Tulane’s honors program. Congratulations on getting hyped up over nothing.</p>
<p>I’m very sorry you didn’t get in, good luck with the application process. You are obviously in the minority though, maybe your grades were subpar or you didn’t take a rigorous curriculum, there could be any numer of reasons for your rejection. Just read the thread that I posted a link to, yeah.</p>
<p>You’ll find that there are many many people who got into the Honors program with 31 ACT’s and 2070-2100 sat’s. </p>
<p>The bottom line is that the stats don’t add up, there is definetely way more than 10 percent of incoming freshmen who were accepted to the Honors Program, either that, or Tulane is lying about its admissions statistics.</p>
<p>first of all, you fail for citing wikipedia, not the most credible source.
second of all, tulane got a lot more applications this year than it ever has before and a lot of more highly qualified applicants. because the school sends out admissions decisions on a rolling basis, it’s likely that standards that were previously used to determine honors status were still employed, under the assumption that there would be fewer applicants. tulane was wrong and may have invited more students to honors than it ever has before.
third of all, this matters why? do you have no life?</p>
<p>if you look at the links to the data on wikipedia, all the statistics are taken from the tulane website.</p>
<p>Your theory wouldn’t work because the stats and proclamation that the top 10 percent of incoming freshman are in the Tulane honor program was from before this admissions cycle.</p>
<p>Hey, sometimes I get bored and distracted from my office work, and cc is widely known to be addictive.</p>
<p>Knowing what kind of erroneous stuff gets into major peer-reviewed journals like Nature and Science, I’d say wikipedia is actually just as accurate.</p>
<p>Tulane considers extracurriculars, personal statements, and counselor recommendations. It’s not a strictly numbers-based process, so it would be impossible to tell if they’re lying by looking only at the numbers.</p>
<p>i wasn’t questioning the accuracy of wikipedia in the instance, it just would’ve helped your argument to cite something else. i didn’t know which admissions cycle you were referring to because the information you posted lists the number of applicants for 2009 with the test scores for 2008. you are right, my theory is useless with the numbers from 2008. however, i’ll revert to my third point, which is WHY does it matter? and office work? how old are you?</p>
<p>theendusputrid, does it surprise you that somehow the 2009 and 2008 class profiles are identical? If you didn’t catch that, you aren’t too bright.</p>
<p>Secondly, 10% of the “entering freshman class” can mean two things. 10% of the students accepted were admitted to the honors program, or 10% of the students attending are admitted into the program.</p>
<p>A student with a 31 or 2100 isn’t most likely going to go to Tulane. Take those kids out. The large pile of students dwindles down to about 10% of the entering class which is ~ 140 kids.</p>
<p>is seems Mr. theendusputrid is on a tear with threadd tearing down schools that he feels bitter about. </p>
<p>My advice Mr. theendusputrid… just move on. You had some disappointing admissions results, yet things turned out relatively well for you based on other of your posts…</p>
<p>The head of the Tulane Honors program says that between 10 and 15% of the freshman class is in the honors program, it varies. If they said they offer it to 10% of the 9,200 or so that are admitted, then either they meant that it is offered to about 10% of those that eventually accept, or I misunderstood the speaker at Honors Weekend. Obviously they cannot exactly predict what percentage of students that are offered admittance both to the school and to the Honors Program as incoming freshman will matriculate. I cannot figure out how you think they are lying, but whatever. Certainly your first incorrect premise was thinking that getting an invitation to the Honors Program is based solely on ACT/SAT scores. That is absolutely not the only criteria. And thinking that somehow manipulating the statistics about an internal honors program at a private school like Tulane is somehow going to make them seem more prestigious is laughable. Oh, and don’t forget that you can earn your way into the Honors Program after freshman year by getting good enough grades (and maybe you need other things too, but a certain GPA at a minimum) and so when looking at stats, be sure you are not looking at numbers for the overall school.</p>
<p>To barrons’ question as to why a school like Tulane would need an Honors Program. Well, they don’t need one, they choose to have one. Like most schools that are not at the very top tier such as Harvard, Stanford, et. al., Tulane gets a range of academic abilities in their students. I mean of course so does Harvard, but it gets more pronounced the less selective the school is. And like most schools, Tulane wants to attract the best students possible. Having an Honors Program that meets a need and desire of the very best students both helps them recruit those students as well as keep them.</p>
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