Tulane ranks high using SAT CR stats

harvardgator · October 7, 2009, 5:08pm

Thought Tulane students, parents, and others might be interested in seeing how high Tulane ranks when using the following criteria (originally posted by Hawkette):

% of students scoring 700+ on SAT CR , Private National University

76% , Yale
76% , Caltech
73% , Princeton
71% , U Chicago
65% , Dartmouth
64% , Columbia
64% , Wash U
62% , Tufts
60% , Duke
60% , Northwestern
58% , MIT
58% , Brown
57% , Stanford
54% , Georgetown
53% , Rice
52% , U Penn
50% , Notre Dame
47% , Vanderbilt
45% , Johns Hopkins
45% , Emory
43% , Tulane
41% , Cornell
41% , TOP PUBLIC (William & Mary)
38% , Brandeis
33% , Carnegie Mellon
33% , USC
32% , NYU
29% , Boston College
25% , Wake Forest
24% , Case Western
23% , Rensselaer
22% , U Rochester
20% , U Miami
19% , George Washington
17% , Lehigh
17% , Yeshiva
16% , BYU
15% , Boston University
15% , Pepperdine
13% , Fordham
13% , SMU
13% , Worcester
5% , Syracuse

na , Harvard

fallenchemist · October 7, 2009, 5:17pm

Now that is interesting. Thanks. My first reaction is that MIT is further behind Cal Tech than I would have thought, Brown is a bit higher than I might have thought, Carnegie Mellon is decidedly lower than I would have thought, and no comment on BC, Wake, U Miami and BU, given some of the spats that I have gotten into here regarding comparing Tulane to those schools. Of course this is a fairly narrow measure, but given that Tulane does not at all pretend to have its strengths in engineering and other math related areas (except for Biomedical Engineering), it is quite illuminating. I am sure the math results would be quite different, but for those going to Tulane for the liberal arts, this is a very strong indicator of the capability of Tulane students in those areas.

To save people some counting, Tulane ranks 22nd (I am taking it as a given that Harvard would be higher).

jym626 · October 7, 2009, 5:28pm

Is Harvard #1 and all these are below it? Is that how TU comes out at #22?

harvardgator · October 7, 2009, 5:42pm

Here’s the list using Math and CR combo. What this illustrates is how messed up USNWR is with it’s absurd PA category counting 25 percent of total score.

% 700+ on CR PLUS % 700+ on Math , Private National University

176% , Caltech
152% , Yale
150% , Princeton
143% , MIT
141% , Wash U
140% , U Chicago
132% , Dartmouth
131% , Northwestern
130% , Columbia
128% , Duke
124% , Brown
124% , Tufts
123% , Stanford
122% , U Penn
118% , Rice
114% , Notre Dame
113% , Vanderbilt
110% , Georgetown
106% , Emory
105% , Johns Hopkins
105% , Cornell
99% , Carnegie Mellon
83% , USC
81% , Brandeis
80% , TOP PUBLIC (UC Berkeley)
75% , Rensselaer
71% , Boston College
69% , NYU
67% , Tulane
65% , Case Western
64% , U Rochester
58% , Wake Forest
57% , Lehigh
50% , Worcester
47% , U Miami
40% , George Washington
38% , Boston University
35% , Yeshiva
33% , Pepperdine
33% , BYU
32% , SMU
24% , Fordham
17% , Syracuse

na , Harvard

bird_rock · October 7, 2009, 11:41pm

Where did you get those statistics?

fallenchemist · October 8, 2009, 6:04am

Hi jym - I don’t know if Harvard is #1, but I think we can all agree that Harvard would be in the top 5, probably top 3, and possibly #1. So since Tulane is 21st on the CR list, adding Harvard anywhere above that makes Tulane #22, which is incredibly strong. Doing the same with the combined list Tualne is #30 (#29 on the above list then add back Harvard). Not surprising is that Carnegie Mellon jumps up quite a bit. They have one of the strongest Applied Mathematics departments in the country.

jym626 · October 8, 2009, 6:41am

Why is Harvard NA? Does it not release its statistics?

bff · October 8, 2009, 6:57am

Keep an eye on Tulane. It will continue to climb in the rankings. Anyone know if there are plans to beef up the math/science offerings?

fallenchemist · October 8, 2009, 11:22am

@bff - My own sense (and JMHO) of it is that Tulane has decided it probably won’t be competitive in certain areas that are more quantitative (areas of engineering, mostly), thus the decision to eliminate several engineering majors after Katrina. I don’t take this to mean they are accepting anything less than excellence in the areas that remain. In fact their argument was, and continues to be I am sure, that by winnowing the weaker (or less popular, or both) departments, they have more resources to put into the remaining areas. This strikes me as quite logical, and I hope it is true. Also, Tulane continues to have a large group of pre-med students, so the undergraduate strength of the science departments has to remain high if they are going to continue to attract these top students. Word would get out pretty fast if Tulane students started performing at a significantly lower level than students from other “peer” institutions on the MCATs, and that would be quite a blow. Fortunately things are going in exactly the other direction.

As far as the rankings (meaning USNWR for all practical purposes) Tulane probably will rise some in the coming years. But until they fix the ridiculous 25% weighting of the peer assessment, or these people wake up to the fact that New Orleans is not still under water (you would be amazed how many still have a highly distorted image of New Orleans that can’t help but drag Tulane down due to their ignorance), it will be hard for Tulane to move up significantly. But again, not to be naive about the fact that it matters to many people, in the end I think it doesn’t matter much.

Tulane ranks high using SAT CR stats

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