<p>How does what students at Oberlin did or did not ingest have anything to do with the OP’s question?</p>
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<p>Tangent from Oldfort using her LAC’s campus culture of heavy pan-hellenic Greek culture and its impact on those who weren’t interested as high alcohol consumption and its associated issues is one of the traits commonly associated with campuses with pan-hellenic Greek dominance.</p>
<p>Is there a single thread these days that doesn’t get hijacked into a discussion of Oberlin’s (allegedly) uniform culture in which it was of utmost importance to adhere to very specific socializing conventions and points of view about the bourgeois so as not to be “regarded” poorly by the student body, who apparently cast votes a la Survivor for who was worthy to stay on the island?</p>
<p>Give it up. Oberlin is no different from any other school, in that there are all types to be found there. Studious and partiers. Quiet and loud. Kids comfortable with wealth and kids uncomfortable with it. The portrait you paint of Oberlin is a horrible one, cobrat.</p>
<p>My DS is starting at Georgia Tech in the fall. They have cable in their rooms. I asked DS if he had contacted his roommate about whether he was bringing a TV or if DS needed to buy one. DS thought I was nuts…he said don’t buy a TV. I don’t need one in my dorm room. So unless the roommate brings one there won’t be one in their room.</p>
<p>I’m still trying to convince DS that a fridge in a good idea…</p>
<p>I don’t mind someone recounting a narrow experience. I do mind being told what “is” everywhere, bombarded, based on perceptions among a limited number of contacts or even hearsay or anecdote. Or conjecture. Just sayin".</p>
<p>Kids can survive a tv in the room. Kids can have a problematic roommate. Kids can figure out their options, from negotiation to intervention to heading somewhere else to study. It’s not always about some scourge being laid upon some innocent studious type.</p>
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<p>Don’t know about now, but it would have been if one was into TV/video gaming consoles, Rah! Rah! 24/7 parties…especially the pan-hellenic campus parties like the ones on such campuses in the Boston area, being an inconsiderate obnoxious jerk regarding dorm noise after 11 pm-midnight, etc.</p>
<p>Not saying there weren’t loud people at my LAC…far from it. However, they directed that loudness towards creative/performing art endeavors and/or political activism and protesting for causes they believed in…not being an inconsiderate obnoxious jerk during what were supposed to be quiet hours. </p>
<p>This campus culture of maintaining some consideration for others regarding quiet hours and dorm noise made for a much more pleasant dorm experience than what many friends experienced at other colleges. </p>
<p>Especially if they were unfortunate enough to be at a Rah! Rah! Party 24/7 type campus and they weren’t the types to enjoy or at least tolerate the distractions/noises which come with their dorm/room/neighboring rooms being “Social/Party centrals”. When I happened to be visiting a friend’s freshman dorm at one such school with his parents, they were musing whether some of his dormmates were “raised by wolves” judging by the excessively loud noise(This was around 12 midnight), damage to dorm ceilings/common area/bathroom, a few empty beer cans/liquor bottles in the hall/common area, vomit on floors, poop from someone taking a dump in the mailroom, etc. From that, I felt bad for my friend and was glad I wasn’t living in that dorm or attending that college.</p>
<p>Don’t blame it on oldfort.</p>
<p>“poop from someone taking a dump in the mailroom”</p>
<p>Seriously?</p>
<p>The problem is, these random thoughts and the utter certainty one’s experiences are both representative and add value, is distracting.</p>
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<p>That was exactly what one parent said when we came upon that malodorous sight. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, that’s nothing compared with some frat houses or all-male/mostly male dorms I’ve seen on that and other campuses with the Rah! Rah! Party 24/7 campus culture.</p>
<p>Like large live rats trying to get access into an overflowing garbage bin.</p>
<p>I can’t believe that a question like ‘tv in room?’ gets people so riled up.</p>
<p>Which frat did the rats belong to?</p>
<p>No, cobrat, you missed the point. You continually portray Oberlin’s culture as CONFORMIST. Everyone must adhere to very liberal views on everything, everyone must not display any sort of personal wealth or privilege, everyone must mock the petty bourgeois consumers at all times, or risk being “not well regarded.” Your certainty that there is one uniform point of view is what gets bothersome. I get quite hung up on it.</p>