<p>Seems fair to me.</p>
<p><a href=“http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060110/ts_nm/iraq_cost_dc[/url]”>http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060110/ts_nm/iraq_cost_dc</a></p>
<p>What about Clinton?</p>
<p>Seems fair to me.</p>
<p><a href=“http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060110/ts_nm/iraq_cost_dc[/url]”>http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060110/ts_nm/iraq_cost_dc</a></p>
<p>What about Clinton?</p>
<p>Mindboggling.</p>
<p>I’m sure the Bush apologists won’t have any problem with this.</p>
<p>Ahhh, some 30-35 years ago, I asked older bro (phd economics) why US was having inflationary problems. He said, that the VN War was financed by borrowing; Guns and Butter routine. Classical Macro-Keynesian economics, voila- inflation and recession on a much more massive scale than would otherwise normally appear with contribution from us Boomers entering the workforce. I’m afraid to ask him this time around, because this time he may say, “Oh, Well, … I got mine!”</p>
<p>It took Clinton, fiscal policies, Federal Reserve determination and technological revolution to finally stabilized the economy. </p>
<p>There, did this qualify?</p>
<p>Clinton is a wuzz. Clinton could have taken care of SH early on for a few 100 million $. His bombing war on SH only drove SH to further schemings and cause me (GWB) to commit brave soldiers. So what, if Congress would never backed him and had him on impeachment for lying about a sex affair during his bombing campaigns. He was afterall, Commander-in-Chief. </p>
<p>I think this is better.</p>
<p>Think of the frequent flyer miles you could get on 2 tril.</p>
<p>If my memory is right, 2 trillion would cover half the social security problem.</p>
<p>What do you call war mongering bible thumping social/fiscal/greedy conservatives?</p>
<p>Well 2 trillion is 20,000 per 100,000,000 ( m)illion households. What a mindblower. I guess we are financing it through our kids and grandkids</p>
<p>Let’s see at 200 k it is 10 million full rides to the Ivies and top privates or </p>
<p>500 more 4 billion dollar endowments to create 500 more Ivies.</p>
<p>You’re doing a heck of a job, Bushie as the “education president”.</p>
<p>Hypocrates, aren’t they? </p>
<p>Fiscal conservatives. Liars.</p>
<p>Compassionate conservatives. Liars.</p>
<p>Lots of money for war and for the very rich, but none for regular poor folks here at home.</p>
<p>texdad: Your analysis is amazing.</p>
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<p>Or a quarter of what we’ve spent on the “War on Poverty.”</p>
<p>At least we destroyed all the WMD we could find.</p>
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<p>The +/-$2 trillion in costs of this endeavor is somewhat unclear, according to my reading of this article. Is the $number expressed in today’s dollars or in future dollars and in what time frame? I read it as in future (inflated) dollars, which means, texdad’s numbers could be overly generous… I may be misreading.</p>
<p>Compounding {inflation} is a wondrous concept.</p>
<p>Perhaps the better figure would be constant dollars per WMD found and destroyed.</p>
<p>What about Clinton?</p>
<p>That doesn’t leave a lot to take on Iran, the true WMD threat. But, hey, at least the thriving democracy in Iraq will lead to great changes in the region.</p>
<p>“But, hey, at least the thriving democracy in Iraq will lead to great changes in the region.”</p>
<p>Did you mean Iraq, or Iran?</p>
<p>I won’t disagree with the war-mongering part, but let’s leave the Bible and religion out of it. People who are in need of convincing close their minds when you attack their faith. That’s at least one thing conservatives have figured out that liberals haven’t. :-)</p>
<p>It seems more like the conservatives think they have a monopoly on faith and, unlike most liberals, thump their Bibles accordingly. We have Jewish friends who were stunned to find on the Kerry campaign entire cohorts of regular church-going and faith-engaged Catholics, Presbyterians, Methodists, etc., all united in attempt to overthrow Mordor. The conservatives have tried to co-opt the symbols of both flag and cross as their private property and I’m having none of it.</p>
<p>I don’t disagree that there is many a Pharisee among the conservatives and they seem to be much more visible than those who consider themselves liberal. But believe you me…there are Pharisees on both side of the aisle. Perhaps this is the lesson conservatives need to take from the liberals, how to hide theirs…lol.</p>
<p>But…my point is this. I am Christian and I don’t consider myself liberal or conservative. I’m kinda in the middle with the MAJORITY of Americans who are sick to death of extremism of any kind. But I get offended when I see expressions like Bible-thumping and or when I see some who don’t even bother to capitalize the word. Not because I disagree with the sentiment, but because I disagree with the disrespect. I would never, ever consider referring to a terrorist as a Quran-thumper because that would be disrespectful to all Muslims. Just one example.</p>
<p>And more importantly when a person is trying to make a point or defend a position and they do it in a way that offends, that person becomes impotent and their point is lost. </p>
<p>Btw…Mordor? Come on.</p>
<p>…and, unlike most liberals, thump their Bibles accordingly.</p>
<p>of course, you need to actually hold one–to thump one; thus the whole idea becomes something of an awkward brain-tease–if not athletic impossibility–for many well intentioned, and limp-wristed, liberal congregants:</p>
<p>As they say, you can only
thump em if you got em
;)</p>
<p>SeaSong’s condescension being an exact case in point.</p>
<p>ldmom, I agree: the Mordor metaphor might be a bit understated.</p>