For the UCSD freshman profile chart, as you mentioned the chart has the honors courses taken in 10th and 11th

But how can the chart has more than 20 honors in 10th and 11th? Are these 20 as semesters based?

Yes, semesters of Honors courses since some AP courses such as AP Government and AP Econ can be semester based at many of the HS’s.

Also, some private schools offer Capstone courses like Linear Algebra, Machine Learning in the Senior Year.

Any ideas if they carry same weight like APs for UC admissions?

Thank you

If you are in state (CA), you can look up courses at your high school here, to see if the UCs weight them: University of California A-G Course List

UCSC released their admit info on 2/25 last year. Do we believe we will see something today?

There is some speculation about the date on the UCSC thread, but basically, nobody knows… could be today, could be later… UC Santa Cruz Class of 2027 Official Thread

There are a couple of students on Reddit saying they checked portals and are in for CS, but all other commenters in the thread say there is no update to their portal yet. So maybe, maybe not (or maybe just some CS today – who knows).

Thanks, I see that on the a2c megathread now, and in the UCSC thread. Maybe the first few just happened to be CS because sooooooo many people were applying to CS

Definitely seems real enough now that some kids are getting decisions. But not real enough for me to bother my kid at school to check her portal. I’m not sure I would expect her to be in a “first wave” of admits anyway.

UCSC decisions are already out today. Not sure if it is rolling though.

Here is the count down timer based off of last years for UC results

Great point.

Capped GPA (max. 4.4) penalizes students who take more than 10 courses in 10th and 11th.

Students taking like 16 courses (8 each) in 10th and 11th can only hit a max Capped GPA of 4.25 with all A’s. And students taking 14 courses in 10th and 11th can only hit a max capped GPA of 4.33 with all A’s.

And 14 or 16 courses is common in high performing public and private schools in California.

But, may be high rigor students have to penalized to get student representation from every part of the state.

I don’t think higher rigor students are being penalized. UC admission looks at courses within the school context. It is a bit misleading if we compare just the GPA/capped GPA only. In our school district all high schools either have 4x4 or trimester system. So, the college bound students would take either 15 or 16 credits per school year, plus DE if applicable. And keep in mind that each schools weigh the grade differently. My son’s school does not weigh 4.5 (A) for honored classes. And no + or - weight. So, he would get max 4 for honored and 4 for DE. Only AP course have the weight of 5. On the other hand, his friend’s school (different school district) gives 4.5 for honored and 6 for a classified college level. So, the friend’s weighted GPA was very high while my son’s weighted GPA was much lower. It is possible to game the system with easy APs to elevate the GPA. But I think the admission also knew that.

I totally understand you. And UCs allocate their own AP credits for each course to avoid this GPA discrepancy.

I mentioned a different point. My point was we talk about the students taking more AP courses to bump up the GPA, but there is an exact opposite argument, where a student ‘X’ can take 5 year long AP courses (and not any more) in each of 10th and 11th.

Now assuming student ‘X’ gets all As, the UC capped GPA is 4.4 and UC uncapped GPA is actually 5.0.

And another student ‘Y’ that takes 8 year long courses (and exact similar 5 APs as student ‘X’) in each of 10th and 11th, ‘Y’'s UC capped GPA is 4.25 and uncapped UC GPA is 4.63.

Actually, ‘Y’ put in more effort and has better course rigor. I hope UCs look at the whole high school course rigor in more detail to not to waste any student’s hard work and effort.

Since the # of (A-G) courses is a separate metric considered by UCs things will balance out. If you maximize the #(A-G), capped GPA will be lower and vice versa (assuming all A’s).

It is true that the number of A-G courses is a metric considered by UCs. However, we don’t really know whether it will all balance out. It is possible that GPA carries more weight than the number of A-G courses… or it may go the other way. It is also quite possible that different UCs weight these factors differently; for example, UCLA might put more emphasis on GPA than UCB does, judging from the profile of students who are admitted.

In the end, UC admission is holistic and can be a bit mysterious. Hoping for the best for everyone here.

The UC’s are well aware of the gpa dilution with more a-g classes so I would think they take that into account. I also remember seeing one of the lists showing ave number of A-g classes for admits at one UC(might have been UCSD but I cannot recall). The largest portion of admits had 27+ a-g years(54 semesters) I think. Also for UCB on the gpa list of admits it looked like slightly higher admit chance for gpa’s of 4.4-4.59 vs the 4.60 and above. Thinking that also points to UC seeing that applicants with the top gpa’s may have less rigor in terms of less units.

My understanding was that once you start putting weights on #GPA, #(A-G) then the admission criteria is no longer holistic.

This is from the presentation forwarded by @GumbyMom