<p>I read that Cal uses mostly stats to decide admission. If a person were valedictorian or close to it and had a 2200+ SAT, would they be “in”? For an in stater.</p>
<p>bumpumpbump</p>
<p>What is your UC GPA? That is super important.</p>
<p>… so I wouldn’t just apply to Cal if I were you.</p>
<p>Neither would you be safe in just applying to, say, Cal and UCLA.</p>
<p>THere are reasons why you might not be safe as ‘valedictorian’ type grades w/ 2200+ SAT I:</p>
<ol>
<li><p>You might be too ‘angular’ a student for both. If you have just grades and scores to report without EC’s: sports, leadership, community service, a combination of some of these, then you wouldn’t be safe at all.</p></li>
<li><p>Specialty majors like engineering require even higher grades/scores than the rest of the admitted class.</p></li>
</ol>
<p>You can’t really know because aggregated admissions statistics do not reveal the subcategies of applicant that compose the aggregate – low income, single parent, recruited athlete, 1st Gen college, lousy high school, hurdles overcome, etc. My general conclusion is that “regular” applicants occupy the 25-100 band of admissions statistics and not much at all in the 0-25 quartile. For the UCs however, I think the the “regular” cohort, that is, those who are none of the above categories, compose the 40 - 100 statistical range.</p>
<p>As to Berkeley, they along with UCLA are the two UCs that employ the same admissions procedures as other top 50 schools… that is, they actually read the essays, evaluate the ECs, leadership, personality, etc. in making admissions decisions.</p>
<p>You are probably 75% for both Berkeley and UCLA with those stats, even in the absence of ECs and leadership, but no, you are not a sure thing.</p>
<p>Here are a couple of resources you can sift through to answer your question — but be warned, these also do NOT give any qualitative data about ECs and leadership.</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.pvpusd.k12.ca.us/penhi/collegeacceptance/collegeacceptance2010.pdf[/url]”>http://www.pvpusd.k12.ca.us/penhi/collegeacceptance/collegeacceptance2010.pdf</a> these are the admissions stats for the (I think) two high schools that compose the Palos Verdes Unified School District, one of the very best school districts in California.</p>
<p><a href=“http://statfinder.ucop.edu/statfinder/default.aspx[/url]”>http://statfinder.ucop.edu/statfinder/default.aspx</a> In this one, just work through 8-10 prompts so that you can select the report on admissions statistics for UC Berkeley and UCLA by SAT and GPA (two prompts you select for the report).</p>
<p>Regarding the spreadsheet for Palos Verdes, look for example at the following students with >4.0 weighted and >2200 SAT who were denied at Berkeley: rows 543, 583, 587, 669, 689, 905, 924, 959, with particular puzzlement at #924 with 3.98/4.68, 2340.</p>
<p>Two other small points:</p>
<p>1) UCs do not superscore, so is your 2200 superscored or single sitting?
2) It probably matters which School in Berkeley you are applying to – Engineering, Letters & Science, etc.</p>
<p>I found a link to a hs school website, think beachy, SD area, which listed top grads in order. Sorted by schools matriculating at. I copied to spreadsheet and lopped off top 137 grads or so. Also tried to reduce font size so all would fit on one line but couldn’t find the right codes. (Thought coll conf codes were like html with “” instead of “<>.”)</p>
<p>Note about UCLA admissions. Large gap between better gpa/scores and lower four or so. Lower four, I imagine were/are athletes. This school has a lot of water sports athletes.</p>
<p>Also college choice is first listed not in bold. And some students didn’t list SAT I scores, which means they probably took the ACT.</p>
<p>[font size=“6”] Graduating Class, 400</p>
<p>Rank wGPA CR CM CW Total SAT SAT II Info College Acceptences, Choice in Bold</p>
<hr>
<p>6 4.74 760 790 750 2300 UH790,EB780,SP730 Yale, Stanford, University of Pennsylvania, Williams</p>
<p>10 4.65 800 780 800 2380 MB800,PH730,LT660 Yale University, UC Berkeley, UCLA, Uni. of Chicago</p>
<p>14 4.62 800 660 720 2180 MB730,LR690,UH680 Yale University, UC Berkeley, UCLA, Barnard College</p>
<p>12 4.63 800 680 800 2280 MB770,UH750 Yale University</p>
<p>18 4.58 790 800 710 2300 UH770,EB690 Williams College, USC, UCLA, Westmont College</p>
<p>95 4.00 Williamlette University, SDSU</p>
<p>11 4.64 740 780 730 2250 CH750,UH720,CH630 Wharton School of Business at University of Pennsylvania</p>
<p>72 4.11 710 680 690 2080 LR700 Wesleyan University</p>
<p>73 4.10 580 730 550 1860 LR650 USD, UCR, UCSD</p>
<p>84 4.04 540 520 570 1630 USD, SDSU</p>
<p>37 4.36 690 640 700 2030 LR720,UH660,SP630 USC, UC Berkeley, Tufts University, Emory University</p>
<p>41 4.34 670 750 710 2130 MB690,UH610 USC, UCSB, Cal Poly</p>
<p>45 4.31 SP570,LR560,CH510 USC, UC Berkeley, Vanderbilt, BC</p>
<p>48 4.27 670 610 760 2040 UH710,LR590,SP540 USC, NYU, UCSB, UCSD</p>
<p>51 4.25 620 640 690 1950 UH680,MB640,LR490 USC, LMU, USD, Cal Poly</p>
<p>53 4.25 580 660 630 1870 MB670,UH620,SP540 USC, Boston University, UCSD, USD</p>
<p>54 4.24 CH690,UH680 USC, UCSB, Cal Poly-San Luis</p>
<p>69 4.11 630 680 700 2010 LR690,UH550 USC, NYU, UCSB, USD</p>
<p>86 4.03 660 670 610 1940 UH690,SP590,PH560 USC, BU, UCSB</p>
<p>133 3.77 580 680 600 1860 UH610,LR550 USC, Southern Methodist</p>
<p>89 4.00 600 720 550 1870 UH690 University of Washington, Indiana University, TCU</p>
<p>94 4.00 630 630 680 1940 MB690,LR630,UH560 University of Washington ,UCSB, Cal Poly, Gonzaga</p>
<p>121 3.86 690 680 740 2110 LR690,UH640,CH550 University of Washington (Seattle), Boston University, UCD</p>
<p>67 4.14 590 670 700 1960 UH570 University of San Francisco</p>
<p>25 4.46 590 660 680 1930 UH570,LR540 University of San Diego, UC Berkeley, UCLA, Cal Poly</p>
<p>63 4.18 540 660 670 1870 MB700 University of San Diego, Cal Poly SLO, UCSB, UCSC</p>
<p>68 4.11 670 680 670 2020 MB650,LR630,SP540 University of San Diego</p>
<p>44 4.31 570 650 630 1850 UH650 University of Richmond, Oregon, UCSB, UC Davis</p>
<p>4 4.81 730 790 760 2280 CH780,EB740 University of Pennsylvania, UCLA, UCSD, USC</p>
<p>23 4.52 720 700 690 2110 MB730,UH710 University of Pennsylvania</p>
<p>21 4.54 670 630 710 2010 MB700,UH630 University of Minnesota, UCLA, UCSD, Emerson College</p>
<p>111 3.90 540 600 570 1710 LR440 University of Colorado at Boulder, UC Davis, SMU</p>
<p>98 3.97 570 580 530 1680 Universidad del Cema, SDSU, Long Beach State</p>
<p>60 4.20 650 720 620 1990 MB730,LR640 UCSD, Cornell, USC, UCSB</p>
<p>52 4.25 KL800,CH680,UH670 UCSD</p>
<p>62 4.18 700 680 640 2020 EB770,UH670,CH650 UCSD</p>
<p>119 3.86 550 440 560 1550 UCSD</p>
<p>85 4.03 800 660 700 2160 LR700,EB690 UCSC, UCSB</p>
<p>55 4.23 700 800 680 2180 JL790,EB790,CH730 UCSC, UC Davis</p>
<p>129 3.79 560 590 630 1780 LR510,EB500 UCSC, SDSU</p>
<p>137 3.75 630 610 570 1810 UH610,LR590 UCSC, SCUMB, University of Washington, UCSD</p>
<p>135 3.75 610 770 620 2000 JL710 UCSC, Hawaii Pacific University, UC Davis, UCSB</p>
<p>130 3.79 690 630 610 1930 EB740,UH700 UCSC, Boston University</p>
<p>96 4.00 560 580 610 1750 UH580, LR580 UCSB,USD, USF, Cal Poly SLO</p>
<p>91 4.00 620 660 700 1980 MB620,SP590,WH540 UCSB, UCSD, UCSC, Lewis & Clark 1965</p>
<p>90 4.00 680 710 640 2030 UH680 UCSB, UCSC, USD</p>
<p>115 3.89 UH610 UCSB, UCSC, University of Oregon</p>
<p>80 4.07 670 630 580 1880 MB680,UH580 UCSB, UCSC, UCSD 4.11</p>
<p>38 4.36 630 690 610 1930 EB720 UCSB, UCD, Cal Poly SLO</p>
<p>76 4.10 660 730 740 2130 EB650 UCSB, UC Riverside</p>
<p>36 4.37 690 680 740 2110 EB720,UH620 UCSB, UC Davis, UCSD, Cal Poly</p>
<p>82 4.04 MB740,UH640 UCSB, UC Davis, SDSU</p>
<p>83 4.04 700 650 660 2010 EB660,UH650,LR640 UCSB, SDSU, UCSC, Cal Poly SLO</p>
<p>74 4.10 600 610 600 1810 MB700,UH570 UCSB, Oregon University, Cal Poly, Portland University</p>
<p>40 4.35 640 650 730 2020 LR700,UH680 UCSB, Boston College, UC Boulder</p>
<p>108 3.91 470 610 490 1570 CH680,UH600 UCR, UCM, UAF</p>
<p>2 4.87 730 750 700 2180 EB720,UH720 UCLA, UCSD, UC Berkeley</p>
<p>15 4.62 700 760 660 2120 LR740 UCLA, Notre Dame, UC Berkeley, USC</p>
<p>17 4.61 720 770 790 2280 MB800,SP770 UCLA, UC Berkeley, USC, UCSB</p>
<p>19 4.57 630 770 660 2060 FR800,UH750,MB720 UCLA, UC Berkeley, Notre Dame, Washington University</p>
<p>22 4.54 UH660,CH550 UCLA, UC Berkeley, USC, UCSB</p>
<p>24 4.50 640 670 640 1950 FR800,UH700 UCLA, UC Davis, UCSB</p>
<p>35 4.42 UH610,EB600,LT570 UCLA, Santa Clara University, UCSB, Occidental College</p>
<p>39 4.36 700 680 670 2050 MB650,UH610 UCLA, Cal Poly SLO, UC Davis, USC</p>
<p>107 3.93 580 650 670 1900 LR480,UH450 UCLA, UC Davis, UCSB, LMU</p>
<p>113 3.89 660 530 590 1780 UH630,LR610,SP440 UCLA, NYU, UCSB, Fordham University</p>
<p>114 3.89 MB730 UCLA, UC Berkeley, UCSB, UC Davis</p>
<p>140 3.73 680 670 590 1940 UH680,EB660,CH560 UCLA, Redlands, USD, University of Rochester</p>
<p>49 4.27 680 680 600 1960 UH730 UC Santa Cruz, UC Santa Barbara, Drexel</p>
<p>93 4.00 670 660 690 2020 MB640,UH520 UC Irvine, UCSB, UCSC, UCR</p>
<p>81 4.07 590 580 620 1790 UH600,SP550 UC Irvine, Santa Cruz, SDSU</p>
<p>56 4.23 650 710 690 2050 MB710 UC Davis, UCSD</p>
<p>70 4.11 650 760 720 2130 MB690,UH640 UC Davis, UC Irvine, Cal Poly SLO, Boston University</p>
<p>26 4.46 660 720 620 2000 MB730,UH700 UC Davis, UC Berkeley, UC San Diego, Seattle University</p>
<p>104 3.94 560 650 610 1820 GM660,UH600,MB560 UC Davis, Santa Clara University, UCSB, Chapman Uni.</p>
<p>105 3.93 560 430 480 1470 UH660,LR580 UC Davis, Oregon UCSC, CSU Monterey Bay</p>
<p>57 4.22 700 630 630 1960 CH530 UC Davis, Cal Poly</p>
<p>31 4.43 770 690 760 2220 UH740,LR730,SP520 UC Berkeley, UCLA, UCSD</p>
<p>20 4.54 800 770 770 2340 MB800,UH770 UC Berkeley, Cornell University, University of San Diego</p>
<p>8 4.69 700 760 800 2260 PH800,CH730,UH710 UC Berkeley, Cornell University, UCLA, UCSD</p>
<p>7 4.70 770 760 720 2250 CL780,CH760,UH730 UC Berkeley, Cornell University, Northwestern, UCLA</p>
<p>29 4.43 690 690 790 2170 MB770,UH700 UC Berkeley, Brandeis Uni., UCLA, Boston University</p>
<p>32 4.42 600 660 620 1880 Texas Christian University, University of Portland</p>
<p>42 4.32 740 740 760 2240 EB770,LR730,UH710 Stanford University, Williams College, Uni. of Chicago</p>
<p>3 4.86 650 660 700 2010 SP730,UH640,LR640 Stanford University, Georgetown, Duke, Boston College</p>
<p>102 3.96 SL700,UH600 Southern Methodist University, Boston University, Purdue</p>
<p>117 3.87 500 450 500 1450 Sonoma College, Channel Islands</p>
<p>77 4.10 570 540 550 1660 UH640,LR580,SP390 SFSU, CSULB</p>
<p>110 3.90 660 590 580 1830 MB680,UH660 SDUS, Cal Poly, CSULA, UCR</p>
<p>112 3.89 580 630 580 1790 CH620,UH570 SDSU, USD</p>
<p>106 3.93 630 500 610 1740 UH680,LR600,MB580 SDSU, UCR, UCSC, UC Irvine</p>
<p>131 3.78 460 480 490 1430 SDSU, Long Beach</p>
<p>125 3.81 440 530 450 1420 SP500,UH490 SDSU, Cal Poly-Pomona</p>
<p>92 4.00 600 710 600 1910 LR540 SDSU, Cal Poly SLO</p>
<p>122 3.84 600 570 590 1760 UH610,LR460 SDSU</p>
<p>124 3.82 490 440 520 1450 LR500,UH470 SDSU</p>
<p>30 4.43 800 690 720 2210 LT740,MB770 Scripps College, Lewis & Clark College, UCSD, UC Davis</p>
<p>65 4.14 570 640 670 1880 UH630,SP620 Santa Clara University, Trinity College UCSB, UCI</p>
<p>64 4.15 690 710 680 2080 LR580 San Francisco State University, UCSB</p>
<p>58 4.21 660 670 660 1990 UH680,MB680 Purdue University, University of Arizona, UC Davis</p>
<p>50 4.27 550 690 640 1880 MB710 Pomona College</p>
<p>61 4.18 730 670 770 2170 EB760,LR630,UH590 Occidental College, Cornell University, UC Berkeley, USC</p>
<p>118 3.86 730 630 710 2070 MB710,UH660,LR640 Northwestern University, University of Michigan</p>
<p>34 4.42 760 780 800 2340 LR780,CH760,MB760 MIT, UCSD, UC Berkeley, UCLA</p>
<p>1 4.91 800 690 750 2240 MB790,UH780,CH750 MIT, UC Berkeley, UC Santa Barbara, UCLA</p>
<p>100 3.97 630 620 640 1890 LR680,UH510 Mesa Community, UCSC, SDSU, Monterey</p>
<p>138 3.75 640 640 590 1870 LR560 Mesa</p>
<p>9 4.66 800 800 800 2400 UH800,CL800,MB800 Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Princeton University</p>
<p>128 3.79 620 510 620 1750 LR630,UH510 Loyola Marymount University, USD, CSUCI, SDSU</p>
<p>79 4.07 600 630 630 1860 LR570,UH550 Loyola Marymount University, George Washington</p>
<p>127 3.79 660 660 660 1980 LR670,UH540,CH540 LMU, USF, UCSC</p>
<p>97 4.00 PH660 Lafayette College, Butler, Elon University, James Madison</p>
<p>27 4.45 600 640 690 1930 MB680,UH660,SP590 Johns Hopkins University</p>
<p>103 3.96 590 540 480 1610 UH580 Hillsdale College, Biola University, Point Loma Nazarene</p>
<p>5 4.77 770 750 760 2280 SP800,MB790 Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Princeton</p>
<p>66 4.14 580 630 620 1830 LR690,UH650 Georgetown</p>
<p>43 4.31 550 640 710 1900 SP750 George Washington University, SLO Babson College, UCSB</p>
<p>136 3.75 660 770 550 1980 UH770 Furman University, UCSC, Villanova</p>
<p>87 4.03 600 650 550 1800 SP780,UH650,LR490 Dartmouth College, UCSD, UCSB, SDSU</p>
<p>123 3.83 550 490 540 1580 LR490,UH470 CSU Monterey Bay, SDSU</p>
<p>16 4.62 770 770 790 2330 MB730,UH710,LR680 Cornell University, Johns Hopkins, Washington University</p>
<p>33 4.42 650 670 740 2060 SP790,UH710,CH630 Columbia University, Princeton University, Uni. of Chicago</p>
<p>46 4.29 680 570 740 1990 UH700,MB650,LR620 Columbia University</p>
<p>139 3.74 510 540 540 1590 LR530,UH500 Chapman University, USD, LMU, UCR</p>
<p>109 3.90 540 600 630 1770 MB530 California State University Northridge, Yeshiva University</p>
<p>134 3.76 600 600 570 1770 Cal State-Fullerton, Cal State Long Beach, SDSU</p>
<p>132 3.77 530 570 540 1640 LR500 Cal Poly-Pomona, Chico</p>
<p>59 4.20 640 640 610 1890 LR690,CH640 Cal Poly, USC, Clemson, SDSU</p>
<p>71 4.11 720 750 650 2120 LR680,UH680 Cal Poly, UC Davis, UCSB</p>
<p>126 3.79 550 650 560 1760 EB550 Cal Poly, SDSU, Point Nazarene, Mesa</p>
<p>78 4.09 680 720 660 2060 LR620,CH620,UH550 Cal Poly San Luis Obispo, Washington University-St. Louis</p>
<p>88 4.03 610 610 570 1790 UH570 Cal Poly San Luis Obispo, Uni. of Oregon, UCSC, UCR</p>
<p>75 4.10 560 660 550 1770 MB720,UH510 Cal Poly San Luis Obispo, SDSU</p>
<p>13 4.62 750 730 710 2190 MB800,UH790,LT700 Brown</p>
<p>120 3.86 580 610 560 1750 UH700 Brigham Young University</p>
<p>101 3.96 600 630 570 1800 UH630,LR550,CH450 Brandeis University, Cal Poly SLO, CSUHB</p>
<p>28 4.43 MB720,UH690</p>
<p>47 4.28 MB700,CH670</p>
<p>99 3.97 510 640 520 1670 PH620,UH620</p>
<p>116 3.87 630 680 730 2040 MB640,SL560[/font]</p>
<p>My gpa would be the top, whatever a 4.0 all honors/AP converts to (my gpa will be 4.76 W). I havent taken the SAT, but I got a 220 PSAT and am 80% sure Ill get above that (I know its variable but I truly think I’ll get 2200+). I would probably apply to letters and sciences (business or econ, maybe). I live right near PV (I took my subject tests at Peninsula) and my school sends about 15 out of 500 students to UCLA or higher yearly (4-5 to Cal). It is kind of an unwritten thinking at our school that the top 5 in each class get into Cal because it is more stats based than top private schools. I am a “regular” applicant and have decent ec’s; however, no curing cancer or any other hook. I play sports (lots of time, not very good but I enjoy doing it) and I have substantial work experience and avg/above avg school involvement (not much leadership though). Not much com service either.</p>
<p>Thanks DunninLA (ha ha) for your detailed response. BTW, thanks for the attachment. It’s just that I have friends who are neglecting to do any ec’s because they think a 4.0 UW makes them “in.” What do you think? I was wondering how far down the UC chain I would have to apply to have a sufficient safety.</p>
<p>Thanks drax. Interesting how #4 in the class looks like they were rejected from Cal, hard to know though, while many others made top ivys with lower GPA and SAT</p>
<p>The link Dunn provided was to Peninsula High School in teh Palos Verdes Area.</p>
<p>Here’s a link to the sister school in the area [Palos Verdes HS](<a href=“http://www.pvhigh.com/CCC/pdf/CCC_Student_Profile_2010.pdf”>http://www.pvhigh.com/CCC/pdf/CCC_Student_Profile_2010.pdf</a>) and its application and matriculation lists. The info is relevant to those that had > 5 apply.</p>
<p>Also, remember that statfinder is listing capped gpa, not full weighted for each UC.</p>
<p>How far down the UC chain would a 4.0 (4.75), 2200+ need to apply to reach a safety?</p>
<p>In comparing acceptance rates for Cal and UCLA for the sister PV schools, it appears the counselors at Palos Verdes HS do a better job in trying to restrict the apps to the two schools wrt grades/scores, so PVHS has a better acceptance rate to the two UC schools. At Peninsula, there are a lot of lower-ranked students applying especially to UCLA.</p>
<p>UCSD would probably be a safety, since they use a point system.</p>
<p>… let’s address some of your concerns.</p>
<p>Graduate ranked 4th - Penn matriculant - from my post #7 may well have applied to Cal (and Stanford) also and been rejected.</p>
<p>There’s a lot of leap-frogging at Cal (and UCLA and Stanford). </p>
<p>I’d agree with Dunn’s post, that you probably have a 75% certainty of being accepted at Cal. That seems like a fair %.</p>
<p>I don’t know if the essay can sabotage your quals and ‘force’ Cal to want to reject you, but be sure to put a cap on your total package and get advice on it. (You’re a jr?) In other words, don’t talk about your parents’ great accomplishments when Cal wants to read about you. And certainly don’t say how great you are, me-this, me-that. Google “Ms Sun UC Admissions,” if you need and ask her advice.</p>
<p>Do you have time to add some EC’s?</p>
<p>I’d say that your Safeties (90%+) would be Santa Barbara, Davis and Irvine… and by that I mean you should get into all 3, but a quirk in admissions could get you into only two.</p>
<p>I think you’re 85% for UCSD. They use a point system, and you might not get any points at all for diversity, challenges, home environment, etc. and I’m not sure how they score Leadership and other bonus categories, so it’s a little tricky with UCSD.</p>
<p>Bottom line, if you apply to all 6 as most with $360 laying around will do, you’ll get into at least four, 75% for 5, and 50% for all 6.</p>
<p>drax, the problem with the PV Peninsula, PV High data is that they do not identify Legacy, Athlete, ED, or URM in their stats.</p>
<p>For example, in the class of 2007, exactly 12 students from Loyola High School in LA were admitted into HYPSM + other 5 Ivies, and 11 of the 12 were URM (the 11 URM were Hispanic). None of the 11 were in the top 10 in ranking I am told. Additionally, just the 1 non-URM was admitted into those same HYPSM + Ivies.</p>
<p>So you see, an applicant is not an applicant is not an applicant. Each applicant fits a category of desirability as defined by the goals of each school and each new class.</p>
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<p>Absolutely 100% agree.</p>
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<p>Your first and second paragraphs, are what I would question. Im not sure what these two ps are referencing wrt my originating comments. Are these in reference to all colleges in general or to the UCs in particular? </p>
<p>Because a lot of those factors for side-door entry dont apply to UC anymore. And I dont remember referencing other universities besides those from the UC. </p>
<p>UC cannot admit to legacy, and it isnt a basis for entry to pretty much any public college anymore. Or, lets say, there isnt a material representation of legacy admits to UCs and public universities. Not like the > 10% as in Princeton and some of the other Ivies. </p>
<p>Early Decision, as related to those who want to really badly attend a certain college and may not have the gpa/scores, isnt employed by UC either. I think it should for opposite reasons, especially the trimester-termed schools within the system along with early entry, so a student typically in his/her senior year could have two college terms under his/her belt by the end of the academic year, with January admit. I think the draw of top-notch students looking to get out quicker would be high to UC, and ED would lighten the regular admission load from Oct-April.</p>
<p>Underepresented Minorities as related to the the diversity factor for UC is very important. I think its too important becuase thats all one hears, for instance, Chancellor Block speak of whenever hes interviewed. And this is how he became chancellor of UCLA, by hitting all the key/buzz words when interviewed by the acdemic senate or whomever whatever chooses the chancellor at the u.</p>
<p>AS: One question: Whats the most important factor in your eyes if you were to become Chancellor?</p>
<p>Block: UCLA must find more ways to admit more under-represented minorities (ding, ding, ding x 3) and increase the diversity (ding, ding, ding) factor of the university.</p>
<p>AS: Youre hired.</p>
<p>Wrt the hs comparison, we know that Loyola is a very diverse high school. PVHS (Palos Verdes HS) and PVPHS (Palos Verdes Peninsula HS), in comparison to Loyola, are significantly less diverse.</p>
<p>Statfinder lists the racial makeup of the two as follows:</p>
<p>PVHS:
White, 80%
Asian, 14%
Hispanic, 4%
African-American, 1%</p>
<p>PVPHS:
White, 47%
Asian, 42%
Hispanic, 6%
African-American, 3%</p>
<p>We know that the URM classification generally doesnt include Asians. So the diversity factor to which UCs admit wouldnt even register by admitting from either high schools because URMs only account for 5% and 9% at PVHS and PVPHS, respectively.</p>
<p>Add that both hss are in areas that are deemed wealthy; I would guess taht PVHS would have more wealthy students of the two. So theres no diversity wrt economic background</p>
<p>Both high schools have Academic Performance Indices of 10, the highest rating, which helps in the number admitted to the UC.</p>
<p>Loyola, on the other hand, isnt listed wrt racial-makeup, but we know the school has a high Hispanic and perhaps a decently large Afro-American population. So some racial diversity factors can be hit by admitting from this very good private school. (As opposed to admitting totally from under-performing hss.) Also, there is undoubtedly diversity wrt economic background at the high school because of school scholarships, etc.</p>
<p>Wrt UCLA and my very long post #7 - SD hs, beach city - shows UCLA admits as follows, wrt class-rank: 2, 15, 17, 19, 22, 24, 35, 39, then 107, 113, 114, 140 of a class ~ 400. Eight in top 10%, top decile; then a very discrete very long break, then admitting three from the third decile; and then one from the fourth decile.</p>
<p>Being that legacy is generally out at UCLA along with not as many URMs wrt this high school genearlly, very similar in this regard to PVHS and PVPHS, along with being students being wealthy, the only option that I could choose from to explain the admittance of these four would be that they were probably athletes. I think this is the only viable explanation between these two sets.</p>