UC Econ classes are extremely hard!

<p>I'm taking them now in summer. It's really hard especially Inter. Micro Econ. The professor goes over the material really fast. But it seems like it is normal for everybody! I mean, I sense that almost everyone in my classes is already get used to it. Now, the drop dead line was passed. I'm really afraid I'll fail in this class. I just hope to get an average which is 'C' in this class.</p>

<p>Honestly summer classes are probably easier than normal session classes. </p>

<p>Work harder. Lock yourself in your room and work harder than you've ever worked on school. </p>

<p>They admitted you so you should be more than qualified for this type of work. tell yourself you can do it and you will</p>

<p>What school do you go to? Because UCSD has the "Econ tutor". It's a test prep tutoring business and it's cheap. </p>

<p>The classes are hard but just study a lot and do decent. The average grade is usually a "B" because of the generous curves in these
classes.</p>

<p>I wouldn't say it's extremely hard, but I agree the pace is really fast. It's only been 3 class sessions (Econ 11 @ la), and we already covered a wide range of topics. These classes expect you to do alot of self-learning by yourself.</p>

<p>@USMC0311: I can't speak for UCSD, but I know at UCSB the curve for Econ majors in pretty harsh. Only ~6% get A's. However, the material itself is not that difficult.</p>

<p>Yeah, I agree. I am taking summer school at UCB now, one of my classes: American Economy History is hard because there are no multiple choices on exams, all essays format. And the reading teacher assigned us are extremely hard,and most students there seem quite used to it When they talking about the relation between interest rate, capitals and wages, I was totally lost. So I am really agree with you. Plus the summer session moves very fast, so feel like no stop and break at all.</p>

<p>Do your best!! It is hard to jump into the speed of the quarter system but once you get used to it you'll be like the other people who aren't affected. You deserve to be there. Statistically, it is hard at first but according to most, transfers do much better the second quarter. You worked hard and you earned it. Ask questions. Go to office hours. Good luck!</p>

<p>P.S. Who knows? They may look unaffected but inside they may be quaking. Since they have been there longer they are probably used to playing it off. Just think of the incoming transfers attending in fall who are going to look at you as though you are unaffected and used to the rigor.</p>

<p>Also, any summer session is pretty intense. You guys are going to very hard UCs so it's probably double hard (intense summer session at Cal anyone?). I opted out of attending summer school so that "absense would make my heart grow fonder" and I could attack school in fall. Right now, I have been out of school for two months and I already feel like a loser lol. I think I'll feel better once I am in class and DOING something. I am impressed that you guys decided to go to summer school^^</p>

<p>its harder during the regular sessions because the caliber of students are higher and they don't skip material since there is more time. the curve is easier in the summer because of all the international exchange students that come.</p>

<p>Intermediate micro is known to be a pretty difficult course regardless of the UC you attend. It's one of the first transitions econ students have trouble with because it uses principles you learned in your lower divs, but really takes it to a whole different level. </p>

<p>I took it last summer at Cal and had to study non-stop for that class (also had an internship). If your professor starts testing you on material that's not even in the book, you should really get used to that. Write down EVERYTHING your professor says and even consider bringing your laptop to record audio. Really start to understand all the steps in your problem sets and if you aren't assigned any, then do some extra on the side. I was still able to get an A in the course, but I think I would have to try even harder if it was during regular session.</p>

<p>Those of you who are taking Econ 11 Summer session A and Econ 101 Summer session C with Mcdevitt should know he is arguably one of the hardest econ professors at UCLA.</p>

<p>At the same time, he is (in my opinion) the best. After taking Econ classes with him other Econ courses should be a breeze (or at least nowhere near as difficult). You should take comfort in the fact that you are actually learning and have a distinct edge over students who take Econ 11/101/102 with Copic/Buddin/Snider/Zame etc.</p>

<p>On a final note,</p>

<p>At UCLA, econ curves are generally centered at a B. With 11/101/102 centered closer to a B- and less popular, yet more "intense", Econ series (such as the 140s), centered closer to a B+</p>

<p>I find him funny, in a subtle way. Some of quirky things he says makes me smile.</p>

<p>Speaking of which, any hint and advice for his tests?</p>

<p>I think he's great. I too find him very entertaining in his subtle remarks. </p>

<p>Another great thing about him is that there are literally no surprises on his tests. Every single question you should definitely be able to answer.</p>

<p>Know his study questions by heart. Some of them will appear verbatim on the test. This means you must know the answers thoroughly. He is a stickler for little things and will instruct his graders to take off points if key words are not included in the answers (e.g. consumers like to smooth their consumption overtime). He usually says these key words over and over in class; they will also appear in the study questions. They should be pretty easy to figure out.</p>

<p>Write down any problem he mentions in class that you should do by yourself. There's a high chance that it will be a question on the test. You can predict many questions like this.</p>

<p>If you've thoroughly memorized the SQs as well as the extra lectures problems you will most certainly get an A/A+</p>

<p>The only thing you must be aware of is the time crunch. Mcdevitt holds you accountable for a lot on his tests. If you don't immediately know the answer to a question, skip it. You don't want to waste any time (he mentions this a lot and has it bolded on the test itself). Make sure you don't spend too much time on each problem either. I highly recommend you bring a stopwatch to the test so you can effectively manage your time.</p>

<p>Thanks, that's really helpful. </p>

<p>Quick one last question: How serious should we take his reading assignments? </p>

<p>Most of the reading from the book are really heavy on formula/math, so I was just wondering if he pulls any questions from the textbook at all (I also recalled you mentioning you don't need a textbook for his class).</p>

<p>In my personal and secondhand experience, he never pulls anything from the readings. Tests are purely based on lecture + study questions. If you have his lecture notes you definitely do not need the textbook.</p>

<p>Nonetheless, Mcdevitt does like math/formula (as do I) so if he's mentioned any formulas you should know them extremely well. For Econ 11, you should expect to do several optimization questions for the tests.</p>

<p>Summer school is tough since they have to pack essentially a semester's worth of material into a quarter's worth of time. I would say limit yourself to one course, two would be the absolute maximum. I do not know about Economics but I took courses in General Chemistry with lab and Quantum Physics one summer and felt more stress than any other time at college due to the huge daily workloads for those courses.</p>

<p>I'm taking Math 115A and Econ 11 and Econ 11 material is a LOT easier than Math 115A.</p>

<p>I wouldn't say Math 115A is half computation/half proof. Besides like 1 or 2 problems out of 30 on our HW so far, everything in the class has been proofs. Though we have just finished Chapter 1 though.</p>

<p>Edit:</p>

<p>On the plus side, we have 4 tests - one for each chapter, 20% each. Then 20% HW.
On the negative side, the class is not curved. 90%+ = A, 80%+ =B, 70%+ = C.</p>

<p>yay someone here is taking McDevitt with me :]</p>

<p>This makes me look forward to the school year! Thanks =)</p>