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<p><a href=“University of California rejects record number of applicants – The Mercury News”>University of California rejects record number of applicants – The Mercury News;
<p>23 yearlong college prep classes?</p>
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<p><a href=“University of California rejects record number of applicants – The Mercury News”>University of California rejects record number of applicants – The Mercury News;
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<p>Yeah, that baffled me, too - could it mean regular high school classes in the “college prep” track? Do high schools categorize their class offerings that way any more? They did when dinosaurs roamed …</p>
<p>I am sure they mean 23 courses that qualify under the UC A-G system. My daughters high school had 7 periods per day, 7x4=28.</p>
<p>I’d like to post a different take on things:
Record UC freshman admissions from state
Source: <a href=“http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/04/06/UC.TMP[/url]”>http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/04/06/UC.TMP</a></p>
<p>Calmom, thanks for the explanation and an article with a positive spin:“UC has offered admission to 6,283 out-of-state and international students, up from 6,143 last year.”</p>
<p>Not to sidetrack the discussion, but…
And the other 1% are…? (And yes, it’s a typo in the original article, I checked.
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<p>…from San Francisco?</p>
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Hey, we have a lot of transgendered here in the bay area!! They want to go to college too!</p>
<p>Whittierst, ask CC to change your name to wittiest. :D</p>
<p>Btw, nice way to present the two articles side by side. Thanks Asterix and Calmom. Added to the Merced story, we have a pretty complete picture. Of course, we still miss a good story on the comparative value of a 4.0 GPA in California.</p>
<p>Xiggi - I was thinking of the Merced story as well. Your post - and Calmom’s - reminded me of this article on UC Riverside (Jan 2007):</p>
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<p><a href=“http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-riverside15jan15,0,6287115,full.story?coll=la-home-headlines[/url]”>http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-riverside15jan15,0,6287115,full.story?coll=la-home-headlines</a></p>
<p>xiggi: normally when UC gives out this type of data, they mean a 4.0 gpa is the UC-weighted gpa, not the HS transcript.</p>
<p>The UC GPA is based on 10th and 11th grades only, eliminates + and - and gives a 1.00 boost for certain Honors and AP classes. (AP classes only for OOS). </p>
<p>For OOS applicants to UCLA, the admit % was around 25% or slightly better than for in-state applicants, largely because of the self-selecting nature of the OOS pool.</p>
<p>cellar:</p>
<p>Each campus and the system publish different gpa’s, so its always important to ask. In addition to UC-gpa for admissions (capped), there is a UC gpa for elc (uncapped). The standard academic gpa (uncapped, four years) has also been published on individual campus websites.</p>
<p>John Fund “On the Trail” opines on UC admissions:</p>
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<p><a href=“http://www.opinionjournal.com/diary/?id=110009916[/url]”>http://www.opinionjournal.com/diary/?id=110009916</a></p>
<p>Do you really want to advocate a system of de facto discrimination in California? In which Berkeley becomes the Asian campus, and hispanics and African-Americans end up clustered at Riverside? </p>
<p>It seems to me that the problem highlighted in the article is pedagogical – maybe smaller classes and more focus on the quality of undergraduate teaching for students at Cal & UCLA would benefit all the students there. </p>
<p>I noticed you also quoted out of context – the first part of the article discussed Justice O’Connor’s position on affirmative action, quoting her as follows:
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<p>Calmom, I truncated the article substantially because of quotation constraints, but I don’t think I quoted out of context because John Fund argues against O’Connor :
I also do not advocate Fund’s position on AA and did not say that I did - I did find Fund’s notion that the “cascading effect” of assigning students to “less highly ranked campuses” directly linked to AA and UC diversity goals to be highly provocative to say the least.</p>
<p>I read the WSJ piece shortly after reading the following article “Record number of freshmen are admitted to UC system” and was struck by just how suspicious people are of the changes in UC admissions:</p>
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<p><a href=“http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/education/20070406-9999-1m6uc.html[/url]”>http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/education/20070406-9999-1m6uc.html</a></p>
<p>You know, throughout the first half of the 20th century, “scientific evidence” was used as a justification for racism and racist policies, and I am sure that the proponents of segregation probably claimed benevolent reasons to support their policies, just as proponents of slavery did in the 18th & 19th centuries. </p>
<p>The end result is the same: exclusion. Fund’s is arguing for a tiered education system, and you know that the end result would be to widen the economic divide among races, since graduates of UC Berkeley are already viewed much more favorably in the eyes of prospective employers than graduates of the lesser campuses. </p>
<p>The higher GPA’s at some campuses simply reflect grade inflation – Fund’s argument is based on the implicit assumption that URM’s are intellectually inferior and therefore should be relegated to easier colleges for their own good.</p>
<p>If that doesn’t get you angry, how would you feel if Fund argued that women should be discouraged from pursuing graduate or professional education, because experience has shown that many end up abandoning or restricting their work in order to have more time with their children? I’m sure the conservatives could come up with plenty of “studies” to support their argument – it’s not too difficult to play around with statistics to get them to make whatever case you want to make.</p>
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<p>I don’t think Fund is arguing that certain groups of people are intellectually inferior. Rather, what is clear is that certain groups - in particular blacks and hispanics, receive considerably lower scores on standardized tests that, in the aggregate, are very good markers predicting academic success in college. This is not an easy issue to grapple with, especially in State universities in California where consideration of race is at least putatively illegal.</p>