<p>PEOPLE! UCB Engineering OOS is JUST AS COMPETITIVE AS (if not more than) Stanford engineering.</p>
<p>I mean think about it. People who apply to Stanford EA and people who apply to Berkeley engineering OOS are not THAT different, and the acceptance rates are 20% at Stanford EA vs like what, ~7% at Berkeley College of Engineering OOS?</p>
<p>Do not say someone's chance of UCB Engineering OOS is match and say Stanford is "reach because it's reach for everyone".</p>
<p>I think it's a huge misconception that HYPSM is reach for everyone. The ISEF winner is a guaranteed match (at least 70% chance of admission according to my definition) at HYPS. RSI alumni are matches at HYPSM (80% get accepted to MIT). TASP alumni are at least slight reaches at HYPSM. Olympic athletes are matches at HYPS (maybe not MIT).</p>
<p>Discuss.</p>