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<p>I think the problem was that before she got school funding, she couldn’t do that because she would lose financial support. </p>
<p>I keep wondering why these parents aren’t thinking long-term. this is their only child. They’ve created a situation where they’ve effectively have lost her maybe forever. Will she ever reconcile with them? Who knows. But even if she does, the rift and memory will always be there. Who does such things that risks permenantly losing your child???</p>
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<p>Yes, you are lucky. I don’t think I ever lied to my parents, but I sure didn’t inform them. This was also early eighties, and my parents mellowed through the years. When my brother moved in with his girlfriend, they went to great lengths to hide it, and when the family found out, it was a BIG deal. Nowadays, most people would have far less trouble with it.</p>
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<p>In general, I agree with you, though I can certainly think of scenarios where the technology could be quite important. I personally wouldn’t like it. If I don’t answer my phone for a short period of time, it’s because I’m busy, and I would not like it if someone felt they needed to track me by GPS just because I didn’t immediately pick up the phone. That’s entirely different from not showing up from work or deviating severely from my regular routine. If there is a legitamate concern about my safety, technology would certainly be helpful in that kind of scenario.</p>
<p>There must be more to this story than we know.</p>
<p>Right, nrsd, there’s a difference between using it to look for someone and just keeping tabs on someone.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, jym, not necessarily. There really are people like this and there is nothing going on other than their own paranoia.</p>
<p>There was kid at NU that disappeared and eventually was found between two boats after 5 days. They went to great lengths to triangulate his last call to create a search area.</p>
<p>He had a medical condition. Would have been a good idea to keep track.</p>
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<p>Are you asking if a school can decide to do what it wants with its own money? ??? Can’t you do what you want with your money?</p>
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<p>Of course I can decide what to do with my own money, but colleges don’t exactly work like that because they are not a person. Usually scholarships are decided upon by committees based on a predetermined criteria – so deciding that just because this girl is no longer receiving financial assistance from her parents is a good reason to give her a scholarship is a little strange. If those were the requirements for the scholarship, I am sure that there are many students attending the University of Cincinnatti who would have applied for that scholarship. </p>
<p>It seems more likely to me that an individual decided to donate the money to assist her, perhaps someone donated to the conservatory with the specific goal of helping her. I wish that there was a college willing to pick up my college tab because my parents aren’t paying for any of my college expenses. If there were a college like that, I am sure it would be very popular. Maybe I should apply to the University of Cincinnatti!</p>
<p>Did the school give her a scholarship or did they decide to declare her independent for the purposes of determining financial aid?</p>
<p>The Enquirer said that Ireland’s parents stopped paying her tuition, so UC gave her a scholarship for her senior year. The paper said the school hired security guards to keep the woman’s parents away from her performances on campus.</p>
<p>This was the quote from the short article at the beginning of this thread. That is what I am basing my comments on. I honestly don’t care enough to dig any further – if she got a full ride either from her parents or the university, good for her. I had just never heard of this before.</p>
<p>It’s very possible UCincinnati did something similar to what my LAC and probably other private colleges does on a case-by-case basis for students whose families were beset suddenly by unforeseen economic disasters like South Korean undergrad classmates whose families suddenly hit dire financial straits due to the South Korean economic crisis of the late '90s.</p>
<p>Many universities have emergency funds for extreme situations. I was the recipient of one this past summer after a financial aid staff member advocated for me after learning about a situation. </p>
<p>The security guard thing would be very odd though.</p>
<p>It’s just an article, repeated nearly verbatim in every other media report. I don’t think it’s as difficult for a school to add some security (likely from their own team) for an event. It shows the U cared- for her, the audience and the program- not necessarily that WWIII was imminent.</p>
<p>Smoky, Mom2 is very up on her finaid knowledge. The colleges do have some legal leeway in how to handle what they can defend as an emergency situation. There are “guidelines” (here, a nice term for rules) and they do include discretion. I am guessing this was not some special “scholarship,” with its own requisites- just ordinary finaid and a legal way they made it benefit her.</p>
<p>x-posting. But the same leeway benefitted US kids, too, after the 2008 downturn.</p>
<p>Except that being cut off financially after reporting your parents to the police could probably be foreseen.</p>
<p>Bottom line: certainly points to the school opting to take her side, in several ways.</p>
<p>The “unforeseen” part, actor12, was that the parents’ behavior escalated to the point that Ms. Ireland’s only option was reporting them. I’m surprised that some people are fixating on the fact that the school helped her out under the circumstances. It doesn’t shock me to think that the school would rather have her graduate than not, assuming she is a student in good standing (which she appears to be).</p>
<p>I’m pretty impressed the shcool went to bat for her. Kudos to them. They had other options. They could have sent her off to handle her problems, away from school. They chose to back her.
Don’t just look at this as some superficial thing about how to increase finaid or how some kid scammed some system.</p>
<p>I know of several instances where the school steps up aid if an existing student in good standing will be unable to continue. It is not meant for a student to game the system but no school wants to lose a good students just because a parent dies or loses a job. Also, DS school give out a lot of scholarship money to existing students to ease their burden if they are tops in their field without a scholarship application (other than the annual FAFSA and CSS Profile). </p>
<p>You are right there is probably a lot more to this story, which makes me imagine that it was even worse than what is reported.</p>
<p>The CCM, like many performing arts departments, is small enough and because of the nature of its performances, etc, the faculty know the students well. She was Dean’s List all quarters she’s attended. The CCM undoubtedly communicated frequently with UC and eventually money was found for her. I don’t find that suspicious; I find that wonderful. And I doubt they would do it capriciously (they wouldn’t want to set a precedent), so I believe the stories that the parents were disruptive and out of line enough that the school felt it was a serious issue. </p>
<p>My D’s school’s parent association every year helps give small/medium grants to kids who reach the end of their college years and might not have enough money to finish. The school also has discretion to do that. Nothing wrong with it imo.</p>
<p>So, if I was rich and I am suddenly poor, I am more deserving of financial aid than someone who has always been poor and it trying to better themselves? This is just bizarre to me. I guess I am not up on my finaid like you all are. It sounds like different standards for the rich and the poor. </p>
<p>My brother, sister, and I are all having to pay our own way through college if we decide to go. My parents are not mean or anything, they just don’t have the money. They have always cared for us and given us everything they could and have been straightforward from the beginning that college costs are our responsibility. So, my brother (a junior in college right now) has gotten several scholarship and jobs on campus and so on and is still having to take our some loans to cover his costs. I am assuming that I will have to do the same thing. My younger sister is leaning toward not going to college at all. </p>
<p>So, this girl, who has gotten a free ride for the first 3 years of college can’t be expected to take out loans for her senior year? That would be a great deal for me. Like I said before I had just never heard of this, I guess I am naive. There really is no level playing field. At least I will know what it means to work for my education and really earn it.</p>
<p>Fwiw, I’m poor. Full Pell student and I still got a circumstances fund scholarship.</p>
<p>So no, it’s not just the rich.</p>
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<p>Your clear resentment of the fact that this girl’s school stepped up and helped her out is really unbecoming. Lots of kids get financial aid, or full scholarships, or what have you, and it shouldn’t lessen the pride they take in “earning” their degrees.</p>