<p>I’m looking for a source which provides employment statistics for UCLA engineering grads. Does anybody know where I can find this data? I thought that the schools were required to publish this stuff, but I can’t find this info for UCLA anywhere. I found it for Berkeley no problem.</p>
<p>I still can’t find them anywhere. But I have another question, too: I’m considering turning Berkeley EECS down in favor of UCLA EE. I know that this would be a step down in prestige, but I’m wondering if the grading policies for UCLA engineering are as harsh as those at Cal? Do they grade on the heartless curves that Cal is known for?</p>
<p>I doubt there’s a noticeable grading difference between UCLA and Berkeley. I don’t really think the “step down in prestige” matters at all, and can assure you that many people here made the same decision.</p>
<p>Both UCLA and Berkeley are going to be very difficult, and I think it would be silly to choose UCLA because you think it might be easier (it won’t be).</p>
<p>Not sure where employment statistics are though.</p>
<p>^While the grade distributions between universities may end up the same, the user is asking if the means to get to that grade distribution is the same and that statement regarding similar grading method may not necessarily be true.</p>
<p>Some students dislike curves which pull their grades down because having tests that are too easy is unarguably a worse means to establish a gradient of student knowledge than if the exams were too difficult. </p>
<p>A talented student would, therefore, receive lower marks at a university where their exams are too easy and curves pull their grade down.</p>
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At UCLA, curves usually help and not hurt you. Exams are sufficiently difficult so that a bunch of engineers won’t be coming home with 90s.</p>
<p>@arcadefire
You’re right in saying that I ought not choose UCLA over Cal in hopes of an easier time. In reality, I am just looking for any way to justify picking UCLA over Cal, since it is where I would really like to be (weather, surrounding area, atmosphere, girls…). But in the end, I just can’t convince myself that it is the best move. To be honest, I really wish that Cal would have rejected me. But it seems that Cal wins in every quantitative analysis of my options.
And I can’t believe that their employment statistics are nowhere to be found! I’ve been searching and searching, and I am an expert at using Google to find out everything in the universe. Why can’t I find this?!?!</p>
<p>@sentiment
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<p>It sounds so nice when you put it that way, saying that the curves help you. In my experience, though, that is the worst situation. It usually means that everybody’s grades are so low that they have to curve everything up. Case in point: this past semester, I took a programming class which was graded on a curve which “helped” the students. It sounded like it would be a cakewalk, but it turned out that I only got a 7% on the final. Then, I found that mine was the second highest grade in the class. In reality, having a curve that “helps” the students is just an excuse for professors to give everybody seizure-inducing exams. That way, when everybody gets a 25%, they have total control over the grade distribution. I really hate this testing philosophy, but I suppose that it’s a sort of rite of passage for all engineers.</p>
<p>All of these topics are irrelevant when it comes to getting employed. A choice should not be made on employment statistics.</p>
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I know this is “unhelpful”; but it’s because the employment statistics don’t exist. This is my experience on CollegeConfidential from lurking for a long time.</p>
<p>Berkeley has a good career center that publishes “comprehensive” employment data. CalPoly SLO is another university with extensive career surveys. Many, if not most, universities don’t publish the data, however. The ones that do are usually very succinct and minimal.</p>
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Scores aren’t that skewed. It depends on your major, but you should expect 70s and above.</p>
<p>@jas0n
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<p>I’m a bit curious why you say this. Would you mind elaborating? It seems to me that it would make sense to base a college decision upon employment statistics, since I’m going to college to be employable.</p>
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Sounds like good enough reasons to me. Go where you will be happiest. If you are miserable in college your grades will suffer.</p>
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<p>Employers don’t hire colleges, they hire People. So if you work hard, get good grades, have a good personality and make a good impression in a job interview, you will get the job. Most job recruitment is local, so SoCal. companies will recruit at UCLA whereas NorCal recruits at Berkeley. But a good candidate from Cal State Long Beach could ace either one of them out for a job.</p>
<p>Hootenany:</p>
<p>As UCLA Band Mom stated, employers hire People. When a employer is filtering through resumes, they do not automatically choose those from UCB/UCLA with high GPAs. Instead, they make sure the GPA is above a decent level, maybe 3.0, and looks at the courses taken and experience gained through projects and research experience. For example, if I am hiring someone to work on radio networking, they will look for someone who has experience with wireless routers, radios for the army, or bluetooth devices. If any of those keywords pop up, I will surely phone screen the person whom submitted the resume.</p>
<p>UCLA Band Mom and Hootenany:</p>
<p>All big companies that search for talent will surely fly to both UCLA or UCB to recruit for positions.This is where the reputation of the school starts affecting a student’s ability to seek employment. However, this does not say that a UC Riverside student won’t be better than a UCLA student. As for small companies, local recruitment is the trend.</p>
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<p>Not quite. I work for a Fortune 500 aerospace company that only sends recruters to job fairs at local universities (within 50 miles). With the advent of the internet, recruiters don’t travel as much as they used to, relying instead on job postings at their websites.</p>
<p>Are you worried that if you go to Berkeley you’ll get employed and if you go to UCLA you won’t? Come on now. These are peer schools…opportunities are going to be very similar. They both have great recruiting. I can’t find employment statistics, but you can take a look at a sample engineering career fair: [UCLA</a> Career Center](<a href=“http://career.ucla.edu/Students/CareerFairs/ArchivesPreviousFairs/Fall2010_EngineeringTechnicalFair_TuesOct12.aspx]UCLA”>http://career.ucla.edu/Students/CareerFairs/ArchivesPreviousFairs/Fall2010_EngineeringTechnicalFair_TuesOct12.aspx)</p>
<p>UCLA Band Mom:</p>
<p>What I meant by that statement is that smaller companies typically target local universities when it comes to career fairs to save money. You may have thought that I meant smaller companies only hire locally (as in CA companies will not hire from Carnegie). I do understand they take all applicants who apply to their positions online.</p>