not that the class itself would be annoying, but the amount of time it would suck up would be. </p>
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<p>My friend who is Math of Computation talked to the departmental counselor, and they said you can get “equivalency” for cs31 and 32 if you take PIC 10A, 10B, and 10C. That’s how certain L&S majors (Cognitive Science, math of computation, computational and systems biology) that need to take upper division CS classes can satisfy the pre-reqs for them.
But yeah, that is a good point, it doesn’t make a lot of sense that you can get credit for cs32 by taking PIC classes - it depends whether “equivalency” means “you get credit as if you took cs32” or “you can enroll in classes that have cs32 as a pre-req”.</p>
Well, if you’re interested in switching to the CS major, be warned that CS31 and CS32 take the least time out of all the CS courses you’ll have to take. The only exceptions would be the non-programming courses (CS180, CS181).</p>
and they get more difficult? obviously i’m expecting 111, 33, 131 to require a lot or work, but you would think that the intro weeder classes would be some of the toughest you would take. I guess it would depend on the professor, but what other classes did you find to be most difficult? I don’t think i want to put two 111’s together in my schedule…</p>
<p>According to my experience and that of my classmates, CS33 was a magnitude “more annoying” and “harder” compared to CS32. I remember that at the end of CS33, we had to make an oral presentation about it and most people rambled on how CS33 was time consuming, ‘social life destroyer’ lol, etc. Of course it was mainly an exaggeration, but it really depends on you. Although I thought it was harder, I did better on it than CS32, so it really depends.</p>
Well, the difficulty level is relative to time/growth, prior knowledge, and your level of dedication. The only reason the weeder classes are “hard” is because they are your first CS courses at a college level and pace (hence the term weeder classes). The material itself isn’t all that hard.</p>
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This is really unique to each student. Some of my friends thought CS111 was a piece of cake…some thought CS33 was the hardest. I personally thought CS131 and CS180 were the hardest for me, but I have yet to take CS118 and CS152B (CSE majors). You’ll find your own strengths and weaknesses throughout the years. You may find that you’re really good at networking but really bad at algorithm analysis (CS180). Nonetheless, I can honestly say that each class will take up a decent chunk of time. If they have projects, they will probably take just as long as your CS32 projects (if not longer).</p>
<p>I’m not trying to be discouraging - if you’re interested in computer science at all, I think you should take a class, and you may find that you really do love it. It would be unfortunate to miss out on that opportunity.</p>
<p>If I wanted to know whether it’s legal in North Dakota to turn right on a red light, it would be kind of silly of me to say “My friend says an Oregon cop told him it was legal in Oregon.” If you’re asking about the rules for the School of Engineering, why on Earth would you rely on information about L&S majors? In fact, since this is not a matter of opinion more suitable for a forum like this, but is instead a matter of fact, why not just ask an HSSEAS counselor and get a definitive answer?</p>
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<p>If you had Nachenberg for CS 32, you must have had CS 31 in a fall quarter. How are the specs crappy in the fall? I found almost any question I had about what was required was answered somewhere in the specs. It’s usually winter’s specs that give people grief about not knowing exactly what is required.</p>
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<p>This will almost surely be different, since Reinman’s teaching it this year instead of Rohr. My guess would be that CS 33 won’t have the huge projects it used to, but it may be harder in the concepts covered.</p>
<p>If Rohr wrote your CS 31 specs, then you took CS 31 either in a winter quarter or before Smallberg started teaching here. Maybe you’re thinking of Rohr’s CS 33 specs?</p>
<p>Smallberg writes the CS 31 specs in quarters he teaches it; Rohr writes them only when he’s teaching CS 31 and Smallberg isn’t, which is usually winter.</p>
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<p>That’s true. While the specs tell you what your program has to do, they don’t usually tell you how to do it in the level of detail some people seem to want, so they complain. If the specs have the answer to almost all my questions about what the program should do, I didn’t fault the specs. I took the how as part of the assignment – after all, what attracted me to CS was the problem solving aspect. You start out thinking “I can’t possibly figure out how to make the computer do that.” and then start figuring things out piece by piece and eventually reach a satisfying feeling when it kind of works.</p>
<p>Hi, I am a 3rd year EE student. I am thinking of taking the fall quarter off for health reasons, and wanted to make sure that the same one-term absence policy applies to HSSEAS as College of L&S. I couldn’t find any info on that in the Announcement, so the policy must be that</p>
<p>“Students who complete a term (Fall, Winter, Spring), and do not register the following term, may return to UCLA the subsequent term as a continuing student and be eligible to register and enroll in advance.”</p>
<p>I don’t think I’ve ever met any engineering major who takes a term off, so this move makes me nervous a little. Thanks for your feedback in advance. :)</p>
<p>A forum like this is best not for the official rules, but for questions of opinion or experience, like whether or not people who’ve been out of school for six months have had trouble readjusting after coming back.</p>
<p>(Sorry to sound like a broken record on the theme of asking a counselor, but an acquaintance in Engineering got burned once – He failed a class by thinking a more liberal L&S deadline applied to him, simply because he relied on a friend’s advice, not realizing the rules were different for that L&S friend. That taught me to always check with an official source.)</p>
<p>^ Thank you for your thoughtful response. It is so weird that HSSEAS OASA webpage has absolutely no info on ‘Declaring Nonattendance’ for one quarter. Taking your advice, I e-mailed my counselor and am waiting for her reply now. If I don’t get an e-mail back, I will contact the office. When we call the office, are they willing to answer quick questions on the phone? I got the impression they take calls to only schedule appointment.</p>
<p>My friend and I have taken a Fall quarter off. All we did was declared a term of absence on URSA, and that was it. We are both engineering majors, BTW. Someone else I know has taken a whole year off but she had to get prior approval.</p>
<p>yes! So all that policy on the Registrar’s Webpage DOES apply to us engineering majors. Since I e-mailed the counselor already, I will wait a little more and then use URSA to declare a term of absence. Thanks for your reply!! Helps a lot to know.</p>
<p>I’m in a dilemma here so some help would be appreciated.</p>
<p>I’m a L&S student right now and plan to change to the HSSEAS after I complete two quarters and the other two requirements via petition. One of my classes is Chem 20A with Scerri and it seems that I can opt to get out of this class and go directly to 20B since I managed to get a 4 on my AP test. Would it be a bad idea to drop the class, go fill out the petition at whatever building, or just take the course?</p>
<p>I’m leaning towards keeping the course since I also invested in the overpriced course-reader as well but I could use some opinions.</p>
<p>Anyone had ee m16 with Eshaghian? How was it? In lecture she seemed like a nice lady but no clue about her teaching ability. There are no reviews on bruinwalk.</p>
<p>gnffan, i couple of my friends had her for m16 a couple of quarters ago. They all seem to agree that she was one of the easier professor’s for that class because her quiz and exam problems were similar to examples from the book. Of course that could have changed.</p>
<p>how do I receive an invite or candidacy for TBP or HKN? I heard that it is all based on academics and you must be a junior. Is this junior STANDING or 3rd year at ucla?</p>