<p>No way you have evidence of this dhl3. I very much doubt that students unhappy with their school would not admit dissatisfaction with a school purely because of a sports rivalry. What an absurd statement.</p>
<p>i cannot provide you any evidence for this cuz UCLA people will deny it no-matter-what becuz they don’t want their rivals (USC) to know that they actually care about this rivalry (but they actually care A LOT).</p>
<p>If a student were dissatisfied with their school would they really, in a national survey or whatever, care about such a rivalry. Wouldn’t it be more likely that they give a more negative view then, just to “spite” the university if UCLA undergrads care about it that much?</p>
<p>To simplify this, the question is:</p>
<p>Which does UCLA people prefer MORE:</p>
<p>UCLA’s rank going up</p>
<p>or</p>
<p>USC’s rank going down</p>
<p>i’ve heard similar things from people…of course it’s opinion, but i heard from my friend’s employer, a doctor who had undergrad at UCLA, and a few teachers. that’s not to say it “sucks” or even that it’s marginal. but the fact that several people would say it means there had to have been at least hint of truth to it. that said, those opinions had almost nothing to do with my selection. </p>
<p>i had to choose between USC and UCLA. i chose USC, but UCLA was immensely close. both are highly regarded schools with great programs, and to be so belittling of the other school is immature. even without my going to USC, to call it a “wannabe college” is pretty offensive, considering the quality of the programs and students.</p>
<p>
the people that receive these scholarships…they’re smart people, no? people that would go to the school that would provide them with the education and environment they desire, regardless of the cost or lack thereof…your statement implies these people are one-dimensional or at least inconsiderate to the other (academic) factors involved. at this caliber of student, even a slightly astute student would not accept any amount of money to attend a “mediocre” school and/or a school they didn’t feel was right for them. oh and lets not forget…people who would receive such scholarships at USC would also likely get the Regents’ or Chancellor’s Scholarships at other UCs (including UCLA). they’re “buying” these students as well, but USC still accepts and matriculates students with stats equivalent to or higher than those at UCs…something to think about.</p>
<p>Uh . . . how bout people just don’t diss 'SC and stick to the topic in the first place??? Though thanks to those that elaborate on comparing SC and UCLA, even though 'SC’s ranking at #30 obviously makes it wannabe . . .</p>
<p>dhl3,</p>
<p>you dont even go to UCLA (or USC) so i dont get how you can characterize UCLA students as having this “must beat SC” inferiority complex. </p>
<p>i care about the rivalry (i think it’s cool that there’s a rivalry), i care more about UCLA going up than USC going down, and i’m very, very satisfied with my UCLA experience in it of itself. </p>
<p>either i just disproved all your myths or i’m an anomaly. </p>
<p>but try living as an everyday UCLA student. i think youll agree more with the former. we dont care/think about USC on an everyday basis. this only happens during sporting events and in immature comparisons/discussions that people have on this website and when engaging in an occassional debate in real life (where both sides are guilty for keeping up the rivalry).</p>
<p>really, thinking that UCLA students measure everything against USC is just plain silly.</p>
<p>Oh dhl3, you’re such an amusing creature. </p>
<p>At any rate, there are going to critics of any undergraduate program… just because you may have run into 3 of them doesn’t mean that, automatically, the university is “sliding.” I don’t normally ask my peers how satisfied they are currently with their education, but I personally have been more than satisfied with the experience I have had here, if anecdotal support means anything. I came here with guarantees of transfer after 2 years to 2 very prestigious schools after not being able to afford to go to those schools in the first place (aka planning to leave here after sophomore year), and since my first 2 years were so great, I couldn’t imagine leaving a school which had given me so much. In summation, UCLA undergrad does NOT suck.</p>