<p>I herd from several independent and unbiased people tell me that UCLA’s undergrad is not very good and has slid a lot. Has any one herd the same?</p>
<p>Definitely the opposite.</p>
<p>It’s all relative of course. I will however, say that UCLA undergrad is on par with the best in the country. Social life is definitely top notch…</p>
<p>I can’t speak for the academic environment as I haven’t had first hand experience with it.</p>
<p>Actually, most people I’ve encountered have suggested the opposite. There’s been a rise in both the perceived and actual quality in the undergraduate program during the past two decades or so. </p>
<p>What, exactly, did your “sources” suggest was the cause of said slide?</p>
<p>■■■■■ ■■■■■ ■■■■■ your boat…</p>
<p>no ■■■■■■■■ here, i just asked becase two friends and one ccc professor told me that.</p>
<p>it’s definitely good and not sliding. </p>
<p>“good” is relative… it’s great for a big public university but if you’re comparing to some top privates and you’re a fan of personal attention, then ucla is not the best. and by personal attention i mean inviting you over to dinner, which is almost unheard of at ucla. but personal attention as in office hour discussions, research, advising, that’s quite common at ucla. research and literally a plethora of other opportunities are still available for ucla undergrads. </p>
<p>as for sliding… i dont know what you’re talking about. what level was it at, when did it start to slide, and what has it fallen to? i’m unfamiliar with any “sliding” of ucla’s undergrad education. can you elaborate?</p>
<p>I definitely smell a ■■■■■. The stench probably comes from that overpriced wannabe college across town ;)</p>
<p>In point of fact, ucla students are <em>highly</em> satisfied with their education. ucla (and many other schools) regularly survey current students and new alumni. According to an article in the Daily Bruin
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<p>I’m guessing it’s because of the class sizes and lack of attention from teacher. I don’t know if thats true or not but that’s usually the argument i hear against big state schools.</p>
<p>Yet this has been shown time and time again not to be that terribly big of an issue. UCLA’s classes pare well with Cornell in fact.</p>
<p>Never take a thread seriously when it contains “[insert school] … sucks?” as the subject line. :rolleyes:</p>
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<p>Really? Macro and microeconomics at USC has class sizes of 150 students.</p>
<p>ok alredy, i was saying what i herd and I never clamed it actually true, I was just asking; that is why I put a question meark after “UCLA Undergrad sucks”</p>
<p>“I definitely smell a ■■■■■. The stench probably comes from that overpriced wannabe college across town”</p>
<p>Oh, that overpriced wannabe college that has almost 2x the number of merit scholars (despite being significantly smaller), statistically significant higher SAT scores, and a plethora of other things that are better when compared with UCLA? That one?</p>
<p>Oh, you must mean CSULA. No, I don’t htink they’re overpriced…</p>
<p>You can’t compare the SAT scores because USC takes the best from each section from different sittings, while UCLA takes the best overall from one sitting.</p>
<p>Maybe cause they buy their Merit Scholars with full and half tuitions.</p>
<p>Maybe… they REWARD their students with scholarships?</p>
<p>“and a plethora of other things that are better when compared with UCLA?”</p>
<p>And those things would be…? Surely you can’t be referring to Marshall…</p>
<p>he probably meant the downtown luxery apartments that the football players get ;)</p>
<p>UCLA people say that they are satisfied with their school mainly due to the pressure of having to beat USC in everything. Ever since the Trojans pwned the Bruins with the football, the UCLAites became more and more steamed and fumed and desperate to beat USC. Of course, UCLA is better than USC in certain areas, and USC beats UCLA in other areas. But UCLA students especially have that “must-beat-USC” mindset in them that they get a natural instinct of having to beat USC, even in some simple student satisfaction survey.</p>
<p>So really, we really can’t know if UCLA students are truly satisfied of their school, or just saying it out of fear of their rival beating them in “student satisfaction” category in the college ranking chart.</p>