<p>which one is better? harder to get a high GPA? Take into account that i got into ERC for UCSD (harder GEs)</p>
<p>UCSD is better for science overall</p>
<p>both schools are going to be hard, so ur going to have to work ur butt off (esp for biochem). It really comes down to atmosphere and social life. Visit both campuses during the regular school year and make ur decision.</p>
<p>UCI or UCD is what you want…</p>
<p>UCSD for sure. UCLA is known for mostly humanities like poli sci.</p>
<p>^riiiiiight…</p>
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<li> Poli sci is a social science, not a humanity.</li>
<li> UCLA’s science programs are pretty much on par with UCSD’s.</li>
<li> Undergrad education is pretty homogeneous at the top UCs.</li>
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<p>UCSD is getting wayyyyyy overrated. their BIO and what not pretty much equal. i really dont understand why people make it out to seem like SD’s bio is much better than the other UCs.</p>
<p>gogogo,</p>
<p>In many ways, UCSD’s biology program is the second best in the UC system right behind UCSF. I don’t know that it’s really “overrated” as much as people are finally recognizing it.</p>
<p>yeah i realize that but when i tell people im going to LA for biology they look at me like im really pathetic, and tell me that UCSD is the only place to go for bio.</p>
<p>Who are these people?</p>
<p>I imagine UCLA has some professors who are more than capable of delivering a fine undergrad Biochem program.</p>
<p>I’m making the same decision for chemistry at LA and SD. Right now I’m leaning toward SD for several reasons. SD gives credit toward your major doing research courses (199). Also, my AP credits count toward GE’s at SD where at LA my AP credits are basically useless, since biochem/chem doesn’t really have any elective space so the credits are useless. Also, UCSD has a program for chem/biochem where you study an extra year and get your MD instead of a BS.</p>
<p>Edit: Just saw the ERC, so I’m not sure the AP credits will help much, but I will tell you the dorms at ERC are insanely nice (the common areas are so big students can’t fill them.) I was just at SD for admit day.</p>
<p>mellowcrazy: what program lets you study for an extra year and get a MD instead of a BS? that makes no sense.</p>
<p>I believe SD has an 8 year medical program for Bioengineering:Premedical students. The stigma of UCSD being a great bio school comes from the #2 ranking its BME program gets (Johns Hopkins is #1). But its pretty intense i hear. And also, according to the Bioengineering chair i talked to at the Engineering breakfast, the renowned Dr. Fung taught a bit at SD (father of bioengineering).</p>
<p>And yes ERC is pretty. I stayed at one of the dorms for admit day too. Too bad i applied for Muir. Wait… I’m going to UCLA. But all of UCSD is pretty nice looking and relaxing. Except Revelle looks kinda dingy (Bonner hall. :D)</p>
<p>Sorry I mispoke (this is mellowcrazy, I posted on sister’s account on accident.) You can begin your M.D. program right after you finish your B.S., no matter what quarter that is, not replace your B.S. with an M.D.</p>
<p>“UCSD undergraduates may begin their graduate studies any quarter after completing their bachelor’s degree. Students graduating with a B.S. in Spring or Summer who wish to begin the M.S. studies in Fall must apply by the second week of May. The application deadline for Winter and Spring is the end of the second week of the quarter prior to the start of M.S. studies.”</p>
<p>More information is here. <a href=“http://www-chem.ucsd.edu/Academic/Grad/MS/[/url]”>http://www-chem.ucsd.edu/Academic/Grad/MS/</a></p>
<p>I just heard about this program at UCSD admit day. Barbara A. Sawrey spoke about the program briefly during a seminar on undergrad chemistry study at UCSD.</p>
<p>UCLA (and I’m sure most universities in general) offer credit for research done. UCLA gives units either through 99, 198, or 199 (I’m assuming 199 here works the same way as 199 over at UCSD)- their differences are geared towards what types of units/grade the student prefers, although the research is pretty much the same. And I don’t get what’s so unique about the concept of being able to begin your graduate studies following your B.S. degree (you have to apply- its not some guaranteed admissions, which would have been unique if that were the case).</p>
<p>" a. Seminars, individual study courses, and research courses (e.g. 190, 199) may not be used to satisfy the requirements for the Chemistry major."</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.chem.ucla.edu/dept/Ugrad/Majors/chemistry.htm[/url]”>http://www.chem.ucla.edu/dept/Ugrad/Majors/chemistry.htm</a></p>
<p>EDIT: Wow…spent the past 3 days driving 1000 miles to visit SD and LA, just realized I’ve been typing MD instead of MS. Maybe thats been confusing some people. My bad.</p>
<p>Jyancy:</p>
<p>Just got an e-mail back from Dr. Sawrey about the M.S. program.</p>
<p>“An undergraduate student applies to the M.S. program during their final quarter of the B.S. degree. There are two M.S. programs – one is a thesis master’s degree and the other is a coursework master’s. As long as you have a 3.0 GPA as an undergrad you will be admitted to the coursework program.”</p>
<p>The MS program is kind of pointless in my opinion unless you really want to spend an extra year at UCLA without being a super senior or if you are absolutely positive that you’ll be happy with “just” the MS. If you’re planning to go to a decent grad school, odds are that you’ve already done some high level research and taken some advanced courses. For those headed to grad school you’ll likely be picking up a masters at that school along the way to the PhD and won’t get to skip courses just because you’ve got the MS from UCLA. </p>
<p>Ultimately, if your end goal is a MD or PhD the MS is pointless unless that extra year really helps you get into a better program (unlikely, but possible).</p>