UC's and Class Rank

<p>Is class rank used in the admission process? I couldn't find a section on it on the UC application. I know its on most transcripts, but these are looked at after a decision is made, correct?</p>

<p>Class rank is NOT an admissions criteria, except for ELC (top 4%) at the "guarantee" schools. btw: Approx. 50% of Calif public high schools do not rank, so its a non-factor.</p>

<p>UC's do NOT care about rank. If you are 321/323 in your grade, they dont care. same goes if youre 11/200 because youre out of the top 4% thing.</p>

<p>Well, that's official, and is true with regard for being eligible for admission to UC in general but.... 99% of UCSD and Berkeley's freshman class were in the top 10% of their high school class. 98% of Irvines. 97% of UCLA's, 96 UCSB and UCSC, 95 UCD, 94 UCR. And the official policy of UC is to educate the top 12% of California's high school graduates. So, I suspect that they somehow figure it out anyway.</p>

<p>What is ELC?</p>

<p>kluge: Your suspicions are just incorrect. Every UC CDS makes clear that class rank is not considered.</p>

<p>chickla: ELC is a program where the UC guarantees acceptance to the top 4% of participating high in-state schools. But, that admission guarantee may not be your first (or second) choice. UCR and UCM have been guarantee schools, for example.</p>

<p>According to some of the UCs' common data sets, rank is considered. UC Santa Cruz's lists it as "important." To see how the different UCs view it, search the school name with "common data set" after it.</p>

<p>but its not even on the application to be reported. they dont see unless they look at your transcript.</p>

<p>How that's any different, I don't know.</p>

<p>@kyledavid80: if they do consider it important how do they calculate it when it isn't even on their application?</p>

<p>It's on the transcript. If your school ranks, then it should be on there.</p>

<p>Ya but don't they make their decision before you send in your transcript?</p>


<p>The UCs say a lot of things that they don't necessarily practice. I've always suspected that the UCs have an informal way of making sure that their student body is somehow equal to the top 12%.</p>

<p>Perhaps you have other inside info, UCLAri, but the folks I spoke with at UCOP admitted that the 99% published rate for top 10% was a "calculated" number bcos they just don't have the data. Not one of the five high schools in my town rank, and each one sends the top 30-40 kids to Cal and UCLA every year. [I KNOW they don't rank bcos I work in the counseling office.]</p>


<p>They don't know exactly, but they do have a certain target group that they go for. They aren't ranking outright, but they are making sure that their student body only comes from the top 10-12% of Californian high school graduates.</p>

<p>bluebayou, if "Not one of the five high schools in my town rank, and each one sends the top 30-40 kids" </p>

<p>How is "top" defined?</p>

<p>aha, great question. It's based on my unscientific survey of who's taking a full load of AP-honors courses senior year, including Calc. But, then again, the kids (and faculty) pretty much know who the top scorers are class after class, over four years. So, when the acceptances roll out there are few surprises. But, every so often a surprise jumps out: denied at Cal but accepted to Hopkins with $.</p>