UIUC vs. The Big Ten in Business

<p>Out of the Big ten, where do you guys think UIUC falls in comparison to the other Big Ten. In terms of business. I know I can get into any of the Big ten other than northwestern, and was wondering what you guys thought. I hear Kelley's the best, then UW-Madison, and then UIUC. any ideas? Thanks</p>

<p>UIUC is easily one of the most underestimated schools in the country. Most world lists have it either in the top 30 or 20 best schools. When it comes to business, it's a great school with many connections. I would highly recommend it.</p>

<p>I have always heard that Wisconsin's school of business is better than UIUC's all around It really depends what you study. Accounting is #1 in the country at UIUC, depending on who you ask. I'd never heard Indiana's school was the best though. It certainly could be, it just strikes me as odd then that IU's entrance requirements on the whole are so much more lax.</p>

<p>however for Wisconsin you don't apply into business, you have to wait to apply at the end of Sophomore year and then go in. so there is always that small little risk.....</p>

<p>I think they are all pretty good, but what I am looking for is good job offers in IBanking or management consulting or a spot in a great MBA program. Anybody have any info?

<p>tennisfan, how is that different than UIUC? I'm not a business major, but as far as i knew you had to apply after 60 credits for U of I's school too. In fact, i had a friend rejected. I was under the impression both schools had a pretty similar process.</p>

<p>Ross is the best in the big 10.</p>

<p>We are perpetually top 2 in accounting in the country.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.business.uiuc.edu/bcs/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.business.uiuc.edu/bcs/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>to my knowledge, and correct me if I'm wrong but the lady in the business UIUC undergrad affairs office told me that you do not apply directly into the business school at Wisconsin. First you apply for something similar to general admissions and than you have to apply AGAIN. At uiuc if you're in Freshmen year you're guaranteed.
She said specifically, "You do not apply directly into the business school at Wisconsin."</p>

<p>^What you said about Wisconsin is true. I went there my freshman year. I applied as a Business Marketing student and was accepted, but they automatically place you into the college of letters and science until you apply for the business school two years later. I thought this was the case at Illinois as well.</p>

<p>I had never heard that if you apply to UIUC business and get in that you were automatically guranteed admission to the business school as well. My friend who was denied last year was an undecided major in LAS though, so you may very well be right. I looked on the business school's website for evidence of this though and couldnt find any. If my memory serves me right, you're a new business major though(?), so you'd know over me.</p>

<p>How are your classes/ U of I experience goin by the way?</p>

<p>Basically the first two years of every UIUC's business major is just gen eds. They dont even get to pick their actual business field until sophomore year. As for me, I did not get into business, I got deferred to economics because "I applied too late". Deep down, being deferred was actually an incentive for me to work harder and join more business clubs (also I don't have to pay that $3000 bonus every year yet). College life here is pretty simple, not as extravagant as I thought they would be and for some reason my classes are EASY. So wait krbarrett, you go to Wisconsin???? or no?</p>

<p>I actually go to Illinois as well. I just transferred in this semester as a Communications Advertising student. I went to Wisconsin my first semester of college and hated it. I wasn't ready for the change yet i think, because when i look back on it, that place was terrific, I just didn't have the best experiences there. My grades at UW were low for me (2.5) and i knew that wouldn't get me into U of I as a transfer sooo... I left and went to Eastern Illinois University in order to get 46 more credits while paying in-state tuition and hopefully transfer here. I got denied because I "didn't show enough interest in advertising" but appealed and was admitted in May. Luckkyyyyy.</p>

<p>It's been a long and annoying ride, but i love it here.</p>

<p>Greetings all,
I am a freshman in the business school at U of I. I got Michigans Ross business school, Wisc, as well as Texas McComb. I did not apply to Indiana (my brother is there). Ross is the highest rated of the big ten - but U of I seemed to be the best fit for me (even thought I NEVER wamted to go there).
U of I has some very nice programs for business majors - they have a business shadow program for freshman, an externship program for soph's and finally internship programs for Jr's. All freshman are invited to the job fairs(next week). I am attenting a resume writting seminar given by Ernset & Young next week. School is what you make of it and U of I is a good choice at least for me.</p>

<p>Wow! that sounds intersting, what is the "externship" never heard of it. Also, what do you get from the job fair, tips on applying and interviewing?</p>

<p>Have you seen the US News rankings for Best UNdergrad Business prgorams?</p>

<p>Here's a sampling:</p>

<li> University of Pennsylvania (Wharton) 4.8</li>
<li> Massachusetts Inst. of Technology (Sloan) 4.6</li>
<li> University of California–Berkeley (Haas) * 4.5
University of Michigan–Ann Arbor * 4.5</li>
<li> New York University (Stern) 4.3
U. of North Carolina–Chapel Hill (Kenan-Flagler) * 4.3
University of Texas–Austin (McCombs) * 4.3</li>
<li> Carnegie Mellon University (PA) 4.2</li>
<li> Univ. of Southern California (Marshall) 4.1
University of Virginia (McIntire) * 4.1</li>
<li> Cornell University (NY) 4.0
Indiana University–Bloomington (Kelley) * 4.0</li>
<li> Emory University (Goizueta) (GA) 3.9
U. of Illinois–Urbana-Champaign * 3.9
Univ. of Minnesota–Twin Cities (Carlson) * 3.9
Univ. of Wisconsin–Madison * 3.9
Washington University in St. Louis (Olin) 3.9</li>
<li> Ohio State University–Columbus (Fisher) * 3.8
Pennsylvania State U.–University Park (Smeal) * 3.8
Purdue Univ.–West Lafayette (Krannert) (IN)* 3.8
University of Arizona (Eller) * 3.8
Univ. of Maryland–College Park (Smith) * 3.8</li>

<p>We all know the rankings - Illinois program is going to continue to improve. This year it was easier to get into engineering at U of I than the business school. I have many friends that got into "higher ranked" schools and did not get into Illinois this year (LAS or business).</p>

<p>I wouldn't trust undergrad business rankings. Many of the elite colleges and universities choose not to even offer undergrad business programs because they see undergrad degrees as useless in comparison to MBAs. This is why that list has elite universities like Cornell mixed in with those that are not even in the top 50 like OSU. As connections and resume-building are a big part of succeeding in business, I would say that you are far better off attenging a big name school with a first-rate student body than a state school (minus Haas and Ross) even if the big name school does not offer an undergrad business major. For the top business jobs (i.e. I-Banking and management consulting as opposed to accounting) an MBA carries so much more weight than an undergrad business degree that the only undergrad degrees that are well respected are those from prestigious schools. Of the Big 10, probably only UMich and Northwestern fall into that category. There were good discussions on this topic here: <a href="http://www.collegeconfidential.com/cgi-bin/discus/show.cgi?4/92602%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.collegeconfidential.com/cgi-bin/discus/show.cgi?4/92602&lt;/a> and here: <a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/archive/index.php/t-18516.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/archive/index.php/t-18516.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>It's entirely different if you are talking about "regular" business jobs but I-Banking and management consulting jobs are in a different league.</p>

<p>ok ok so let me get this straight. basically you're saying that UIUC business school is worthless? (because you said state schools are worthless and UIUC is a state school)
now if you are, here's where I'm going to start:
Ok first off I'm sure half of us here in the business school are simply planning to land a job in a corporation as a financial analyst or an accountant for a few years and then go to a very prestigious school for our MBA. with that said, I'm sure everyone will agree with me that when employers are recuriting for either internships or employment, they already know what universities to look into because they're not new in the business. they've been recuriting for years and know what schools to trust. so say someone attends say Tufts which is highly ranked but has no business school and they apply for a job at say Citigroup or what not for a financial analyst job the employer is not going to go, "Wow you went to Tufts?!!! Amazing", they're going to be like "why the hell are you applying here? Tufts doesn't even have a business school, do you even know what an income statement is?" obviously UIUC is well known somewhat with recuriters or else they wouldn't even bother posting repeatedly that they have the #1 accounting program, and the fact that the most accountants that are hired come from UIUC does play in good.
You said that only UMich and Northwestern would be the only schools in which employers would hire students for consultant or I-banking services. Well I went to all the Finance Club meetings, and met alumni who graduated just a few years ago give presentations on the companies they work for and most of them were management consultant and a couple dealt with I-banking.
However if I read your post entirely wrong then disregard all this babble I wrote.</p>

<p>I did not post the ranking because I think they are the final word in business school rankings. (I don't.) I posted them because the question presented was,
Out of the Big ten, where do you guys think UIUC falls in comparison to the other Big Ten.


<p>I'm sure that any of the schools on this list (and even farrther down) are all excellent.</p>

<p>Yes, IB and consulting are in their own league, the league of 100 hour weeks, crazy bosses, and meaningless churning of deals for a quick profit while the companies and their workers suffer.</p>

<p>so, from the rankings, it's UMich,Indiana, then UIUC. But UIUC isn't much behind Indiana. Only thing bad I heard about UMich and UIUC, is that both only are two year, not four year, what's the point?</p>