You say this about law firms and their risk tolerance and who can do what - and I don’t disagree. But the people to question would be at Antonoplos & Associates.
They are the ones with the job listing, not me.
So they said this - and I don’t know the actual work, but yes, that might make it onto someone’s resume. Someone like you might dismiss that candidate, but based on the job description, they wouldn’t be lying.
I don’t dismiss candidates with bullets like this on their resume. But I probe. Deep probe. What did you work on; who supervised you and how. Were you proof-reading documents created by others looking for common spelling and syntax errors or were you fact checking that citations were correct or were you doing actual legal work. What were these documents used for and who saw them. Etc. Some students are very transparent in what they did for their internships. Data entry. Editing. Others resort to puffery. I am usually skeptical when a 21 year old tells me that they “managed the portfolios of 10 high net worth families”. Especially when it turns out that “managing” their portfolio meant assembling the quarterly investment report by downloading and cut and pasting the charts and graphics which a packaged software product produced.
Most interviewers don’t “dismiss”- they try to clarify and get an accurate picture of a person’s experience.
And some of this law firm’s clients will be delighted to learn that college kids are doing their complicated legal work. Since paralegals, associates and partners all bill out at different rates, I imagine that college kids are the least expensive of all the options. Nice cost-savings!
Sort of like when hs kids write they assisted with surgery !!
I get it - people inflate.
I just put the job to show that yes, law firms hire undergrad interns.
Many international applicants to US law schools are applying for a one academic year LLM (Masters of Law) degree.
As you probably know, in many foreign countries, a law degree is an undergraduate degree, not a graduate degree which requires a BA/BS degrees. For those who have earned a law degree in another country who wish to be licensed to practice law by certain states in the USA, they are required to complete an LLM degree (typically in Comparative Law) in order to be eligible academically to sit for the state bar in the several states which permit this practice. New York state is among these states as are Washington state, California, Texas, and the District of Columbia (Wash DC).
My point is that these students may or may not be reflected in Top 14 law school admissions data for the regular & part-time JD degree programs.
I’m in fact not familiar with the data sources discussed in those threads, so I also don’t know if it includes LLM data.
I agree with many of the posters on this thread.
Regarding LLMs and JDs: I know that data reported to the ABA is separate for JD and LLM programs, so it is easy to sieve through the data.
For JD programs there is only a breakdown of those applicants with US-based GPAs versus those without, but unfortunately there are not further distinctions between American vs non-American candidates applying without a US-based GPA
For LLMs it is my personal (anecdotal) understanding that a vast majority, maybe 30-50% of the cohort, are internationals, especially those with a prior law degree or who are working in the legal field abroad.
Does this correspond to 1, 2:1, 2:2 and 3 in the UK grading system, or is there some further nuance?
Though they were admitted to UCL, which would generally be seen as superior to Edinburgh or York, but I don’t know if that carries through to the US given the unis listed previously.
I do not know the answer to your question; however, LSDAS evaluates one’s transcript and then awards one of the four ratings (Superior, Above Average, Average, or below Average).
If you explore a few of these law schools, you may get some more specific guidance/information.
People, the OP has acceptances to three top public universities in the USA, and to two top universities in the UK. They are only interested in whether they should attend one of the USA universities or one of the UK universities, and whether they can pursue a law career in the USA if they decide to attend a UK university.
So any discussion about admissions to American Law schools from any other university besides the five that the OP has been accepted to is irrelevant to the OP’s question. Similarly, a general discussion of whether the LSAT scores are more important than the undergraduate institution is irrelevant.
So please move this discussion back on track.
Thank you all for your compliance.
If we look at top law schools, there is a pattern of high representation of undergrads from the same institution. Part of this is caused by higher numbers of applicants from the undergrad college, but you can’t rule out some home court advantage. The 3 US schools all have excellent law schools as part of their systems. IMO, the safer bet if law school is the goal is to go with the US school where you are most confident that you will fit both academically and socially and end up with a higher GPA/rank.
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