UMKC 6-year BA/MD Program

Since WashU matchlist comparison came up earlier, I thought I will post this here (detailed list wasn’t available on their website, but SDN list seems to tally with the summary from their website for surgical specialties).

Corresponding UMKC counts are in brackets from @Roentgen earlier post. Doesn’t look all that different when it comes to distribution of surgical specialties, but the matched programs from WashU could be higher tier.

General Surgery - 7 (5)
Otolaryngology - 2 (1)
Orthopaedic Surgery 4 (0)
Plastic Surgery - 2 (1)
Thoracic Surgery - 0 ( 1)
Neuro Surgery - 1 (0)
Urology - 1 (1)
Preliminary Surgery - 1 (1)

Emergency Medicine -5 (6)
Radiology - 6 (5)
Radiology/Nuclear Medicine - 0 (1)
Interventional Radiology - 0 (1)
Ophthalmology - 3 (4)
Anesthesiology - 11 (7)
Dermatology - 3 (2)

The main difference seems to be in Orthopaedic and Anesthesiology. I am assuming the class sizes are roughly the same at both schools.

Did you get in into the program? I will try this year.

Please check your email.

For those who wanted to know which CLEP exams, AP Exams, and IB Exams are applicable for credit towards the Bachelor of Liberal Arts, BA in Biology, and BA in Chemistry degree options in the UMKC BA/MD program, see below:

https://catalog.umkc.edu/colleges-schools/medicine/typical-six-year-program-of-study/

Answer directly from the UMKC SOM financial advisor regarding gaining in-state residency:

Missouri state law states that attending college does not automatically qualify for residency in the state. You would need to submit a petition through the appeal process with the registrars office to show your intent to stay in Missouri, even after you graduate from UMKC.

You can read about the process and laws here and here. The information regarding documentation on the appeal page is a list of documents that you submit to support your residency petition. Please note that providing the required documents does not guarantee approval of the residency petition. These documents are used as supporting evidence in consideration of the petition and can be heavily or lightly weighted factors in the residency change determination*.* If you are under 21, and not an emancipated minor, then the residency is based upon your parents residency. You will need to submit a residency petition to petition after you turn 21 and each appeal is reviewed on a case by case basis. There is a $250 cost to petition.

Medical students have been granted in-state residency status in the past, however each student’s appeal is reviewed on a case by case basis by a committee. I cannot speak to how many or how common it is for the medical students appeals to get approved.

That’s correct. It is very much on an individual case by case basis and done by the main university at the Volker campus which is why the School of Medicine is not likely to have official stats on that. As previously mentioned, you have to fill out the Residency Change Petition and you have to have certain documents in place, but even that alone is not a 100% assurance of getting approved.

The best thing to do is start establishing those documents/criteria early on from Year 1 (or the summer before Year 1) rather than doing it in a hurried fashion. The application mentions employment which is possible to do, although you will have to find one that is able to be flexible around a medical student’s schedule. One of the UMKC BA/MD students (now a BA/MD graduate of the program) has a TikTok page where one of her TikToks discusses things she did for employment.
https://www.umkc.edu/news/posts/2022/february/med-student-uses-tiktok-to-inspire-others.html

For those who are asking, these are the required textbooks in Year 1 and Year 2 taken from previous semesters/years on the UMKC bookstore websites. Outside of new editions coming out (which really don’t vary much, if at all, from previous editions), the actual textbook in question tends to stay the same.

Some of these listed textbooks may have an accompanying ancillary website, workbook/study guide/solutions manual, pocket companion, etc. There may also be separate review books that distill the information better. I have not included those here since they’re not listed as required, but they may be helpful to you.

The ISBNs listed are for the physical hardcopy of the book. You may find these books as e-book PDFs for free on different websites. There really is no need (ever) to buy these books from the UMKC bookstore itself. Save yourself money and go to Amazon, Bigwords.com, Ebay, etc. to get the lowest price you can for both new and used books.

UMKC Bookstore: https://www.umkcbookstore.com/

UMKC Health Sciences Bookstore: https://www.umkc-hsbookstore.com/

LS-ANATO 219: Functional Anatomy I

Human Anatomy, 6th Edition
ISBN-10: 1260251357 | ISBN-13: 9781260251357

CHEM 211 & 212R: General Chemistry I & II

Chemistry: The Molecular Nature of Matter and Change, 10th Edition
ISBN-10: 1266199233 | ISBN-13: 9781266199233

MEDICINE 9115: Medical Terminology

Quick & Easy Medical Terminology, 9th Edition
ISBN-10: 0323595995 | ISBN-13: 9780323595995

LS-MCRB 121: Human Biology III (Microbiology)

Nester’s Microbiology: A Human Perspective, 10th Edition
ISBN-10: 1260735508 | ISBN-13: 9781260735505

BIOLOGY 202: Cell Biology

Essential Cell Biology, 6th Edition
ISBN-10: 1324033355 | ISBN-13: 9781324033356

CHEM 320: Elementary Organic Chemistry

If taken with Dr. Peng:

Organic Chemistry: A Short Course, 13th Edition
ISBN-10: 1111425566 | ISBN-13: 9781111425562

If taken with Dr. Gounev:

Fundamentals of Organic Chemistry, 7th Edition
ISBN-10: 1439049718 | ISBN-13: 9781439049716

BIOLOGY 206: Genetics

Genetics: Analysis and Principles, 7th Edition
ISBN-10: 1260240851 | ISBN-13: 9781260240856

BMS 9265: Human Biochemistry 1 - Medical

Marks’ Basic Medical Biochemistry: A Clinical Approach, 6th Edition
ISBN-10: 1975150147 | ISBN-13: 9781975150143

BMS 9296/9297/9298: Human Structure Function I, II, III

Moore’s Clinically Oriented Anatomy, 7th Edition
ISBN-10: 1451119453 | ISBN-13: 9781451119459

Thieme Atlas of Anatomy, 4th Edition
ISBN-10: 1684202035 | ISBN-13: 978-1684202034

Lachman’s Case Studies in Anatomy, 5th Edition
ISBN-10: 0199846081 | ISBN-13: 9780199846085

Langman’s Medical Embryology, 14th Edition
ISBN-10: ‎1496383907 | ISBN-13: ‎9781496383907

Guyton and Hall Textbook of Medical Physiology, 14th Edition
ISBN-10: 0323597122 | ISBN-13: 9780323597128

Guyton and Hall Physiology Review, 4th Edition
ISBN-10: 0323639992 | ISBN-13: 9780323639996

Wheater’s Functional Histology: A Text and Colour Atlas, 6th Edition
ISBN-10: ‎0702047473 | ISBN-13: 9780702047473

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To those who are still following the thread and will be entering as a Year 1 BA/MD student in the Fall, I have two previously made Google Word documents that I made way back in 2016 (when this thread was pretty jumping and active), one with advice on approaching the UMKC BA/MD program itself and one on Life Skills to work on at home (ask for help from your parents too) this summer before entering the program in the fall.

College Confidential frowns on posting certain links in threads, so if you wanted access to it, just private message me on College Confidential with your email and I’ll share it with you.

In case you were wondering, the official move-in date for the dorms and for Year 1 BA/MD students is August 14th between 8 am - 12 pm: https://www.umkc.edu/residential-life/current-residents/move-in.html with the Fall 2024 semester officially starting on August 19th.

UMKC Year 1 BA/MD students are required to stay at the dorms for Year 1 and generally tend to move out of the dorms after the Spring Semester of Year 1.

May I know if UMKC medical school (BAMD):
Is a Pass/Fail OR H/HP/P/LP/F Grading System (for Medical School)? My daughter is trying to come back to texas for residency and heard that this grading method makes matching into top schools such as baylor and southwestern much more difficult especially for a competitive speciailty since the students have to actually keep the grades up.

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Great question!!! So at UMKC, both undergraduate level courses and medical school level basic science courses (sometimes referred to as the pre-clerkship portion of a medical school curriculum) are letter graded. Clinical clerkships are graded on a scale of Honors/High Pass/Satisfactory Pass/Marginal Pass/Fail (H/HP/SP/MP/F) – similar to letter grades in terms of number of intervals but it’s not calculated as part of a GPA.

Nearly all medical schools have a grading interval greater than 2 in the clinical clerkships as residencies do like to be able to stratify a medical student’s performance, beyond just merely Pass or Fail.

I don’t think the actual grading scale alone makes it difficult to match into places like Baylor College of Medicine & UT Southwestern (UMKC has had students match into those institutions). It’s possible that students at UMKC subjectively feel this way (especially when comparing to other medical schools), without necessarily understanding the whole picture. Competitive specialties and competitive residency program institutions will always be somewhat tougher to match into for everyone and isn’t done just by solely looking at a GPA. The residency match application process is quite different from the college admissions application process with some similarities.

With 2 months left from exactly today before the 2024 Fall Semester officially starts, one of the questions that I frequently get from incoming Year 1s (and their parents) in the UMKC BA/MD program is “Should I study for Year 1 Anatomy over the summer?”

It’s very understandable to ask as unlike other Bachelor/MD programs, where the undergraduate portion and the medical school portion are very neatly separated (or sometimes the undergraduate and medical schools are totally different institutions altogether), the UMKC program is different in terms of the type of sciences that we initially take, since our students don’t tend to take all of the traditional premed prerequisites. And just naturally at baseline (no matter what prior preparation an incoming BA/MD student has had), there will be some incoming anxiety about the pace and intensity of the curriculum, so students will feel they have to study ahead with the required textbook for the course (see the list of required textbooks in my above post in years past: https://talk.collegeconfidential.com/t/umkc-6-year-ba-md-program/10343/7800)

I will say that the summer between the end of high school and the beginning of Fall Semester Year 1 will be the ONLY summer vacation that you’ll have, in which you’re not officially enrolled in any coursework. It doesn’t mean you get no real breaks in the program if you plan things right, but there is no period in the curriculum (at least for a student who is on track to graduate in 6 years) in which you just “get the summer off” with no course enrollment. So hardcore studying for Year 1 Anatomy now (which doesn’t help you over the long run, as Year 1 Micro in the Spring is a totally different in terms of study strategies) is counterproductive with not necessarily a lot to gain, but may result in early burn out.

This is why I recommend to BA/MD students that a much more fruitful endeavor would be to look at the “Life Skills” Word Document that I have shared (if you haven’t already, see my post above: https://talk.collegeconfidential.com/t/umkc-6-year-ba-md-program/10343/7801) and actually work on things that you won’t have as much time to work on once you start (you’ll have more than enough time to spend your days studying in this program, trust me) like doing your own laundry, doing your own chores, learning how to cook relatively healthy meals, how to shop at the grocery store, etc. Get your physical (start thinking and integrating an exercise plan) and mental health in order as well.

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Putting that aside though (as I realize that above answer, while being the correct one, won’t put any minds of students & parents at ease), I think there are some things you can probably do LIGHTLY to prepare for Year 1 Anatomy, especially if you’ve never had any type of Anatomy course before. Some high schools offer an Honors Anatomy & Physiology type of course in their course offerings, so if you’ve taken that course in high school, then Year 1 Anatomy will probably go somewhat easier & smoother for you. If you haven’t taken that course, don’t worry, Year 1 Anatomy is definitely still doable, but it will require you to keep up with the material, since you don’t have prior exposure and familiarity with it.

In the Fall Semester, Year 1 Anatomy is comprised of the lecture course of LS-ANATO 219: Functional Anatomy I (3 credit hours) and the lab course of LS-ANATO 219L: Functional Anatomy I Laboratory (1 credit hour). These are considered separate courses for grading purposes, and thus are given separate letter grades and grade points. You would think that the lab course would very closely follow the lecture course sequentially in terms of course content for that week, but that may not always be the case, so be aware of that in advance and don’t let it freak you out.

Also don’t make the mistake in the first several weeks of the semester of putting all of your study effort towards the first lecture course exam to the point that you end up doing poorly on the first lab practical exam in the lab course (exams in a 16 week semester are usually once a month, so these exams can sometimes end up being close together) which usually follows soon after within days, because then you end up playing catch up with later lab practicals (where the material can be more detailed). It’s better to somewhat overstudy for the first exams during the start of a semester so you know what it’s like in terms of testing and to start off on a good footing, after which you can then recalibrate your study intensity to avoid burnout.

Areas that are high yield to go through slowly to familiarize yourself with the names just because of the sheer volume:

  1. Bone names, including bone landmarks/markings
  2. Muscle names
  3. Histology - more to get more comfortable with seeing how things look under a microscope

Flashcards (whether you use actual physical cards or online through platforms like Quizlet, Anki, etc.) will be helpful for remembering the bones and muscles.

LS-ANATO 219: Functional Anatomy I

The Anatomy lecture course taken in Year 1 (sometimes referred to by upper year BA/MD students as “Baby Anatomy”) is very much taught at an undergraduate level, even though it can feel otherwise, as a lot of information is coming at you, just in terms of sheer volume. The truth is that Anatomy, as a science, is very much a memorization type of course. There really isn’t a way to rationalize why certain structures of the human body are named the way they are, although learning & understanding medical terminology in terms of the Greek and Latin roots, prefixes and suffixes can help in terms of description to help you remember a specific structure. For example, the prefix bucco- (which means cheek) is used in the name of the muscle that overlies it called the buccinator muscle.

If you don’t have the required textbook for the Year 1 Anatomy course yet (you can see the table of contents here for the 6th edition: https://lazytrader.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/9781260251357-p.pdf, although there is a 7th edition that just recently came out in the last few months, but the book is not going to change much if at all), here are some good helpful websites which I think will help in the meantime as the course content is very much the same for all undergraduate/college level Anatomy courses:

https://openstax.org/details/books/anatomy-and-physiology-2e (you can view this online or download as a PDF, ignore the physiology)

https://courses.lumenlearning.com/suny-ap1/

https://med.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/Anatomy_and_Physiology/Human_Anatomy_(OERI)/

https://wranatomyclass. weebly .com/anatomy.html (remove spaces in the URL)

https://www.biologycorner.com/2022/07/29/anatomy-and-physiology-full-course/ (click on the Google Docs button)

LS-ANATO 219L: Functional Anatomy I Laboratory

There is no student dissection in the lab course itself. Generally what is used are histology slides, anatomical models, pictures, sometimes imaging, to point out a particular anatomical structure (https://spot.colorado.edu/~saul/anatomy/tips.html). These are generally tested in a lab practical format (https://masteringclinicalanatomy.com/2018/03/13/how-to-prepare-for-an-anatomy-bell-ringer-exam/) in which you have many stations, with a set amount of time per station, to determine what the structure is. I can’t remember if lab practical exams were multiple choice or you had to actually write out the structure on your answer sheet, but that really shouldn’t change your study & learning strategy.

In some ways, I would say that the laboratory course takes a lot more hours of studying/work than the lecture course and it’s only for 1 credit hour! You only get 1 lab period per week, so don’t waste time as often there are a lot of structures to get through. What I used to do before that upcoming week’s lab session was to get the structure sheet given for that week and actually write down the page number(s) from the lecture textbook right next to it, where I could easily find the structure in the pictures/diagrams/figures. This is so that you don’t waste all of your time during the lab session incessantly flipping in the book trying to find the structure.

The laboratory is very much an independent endeavor in terms of learning. Meaning the professor or the graduate TA is not going to sit with you and go through every anatomical model with you, pointing out structures (in other words, they’re not going to “spoon-feed” the information to you). That being said, if you’ve actually done the preparation work in advance and it’s clear that you’re genuinely putting forth effort, they will help you if you’re having trouble and you ask nicely. What I recommend for lab is working as a group or with a partner and go through all of the structures on the structure sheet. With smartphones now, you can take photos of the actual histology slide through the ocular lens of the microscope, anatomical models, pictures, etc. so that you can review them outside of the laboratory session.

The Medical Education Media Center (now called the Experiential Learning Center: https://med.umkc.edu/ctf/elc/) at the UMKC School of Medicine is also helpful when you’re not in the lab on the UMKC Volker undergraduate campus. They have anatomical models – many of which are the ones you’ll see in your normal lab on the undergraduate campus, as well as TVs where you can see the histology using the video laser disc, “Histology: A Photographic Atlas” by Stephen Downing to get more comfortable with seeing histology. Unfortunately, it’s not open on the weekends so you’d have to go there outside of classes during the weekdays. Since many of us didn’t have our cars in the first semester, people who had cars were nice enough to take us in groups. There is also the UMKC shuttle bus route as well (https://www.umkc.edu/transportation/shuttle-bus/).

Hi! I know this is a little early for me to be talking about this but I hope to be applying to the UMKC BA/MD program and was wondering if anyone could chance me:

Asian Indian male from STL with an ACT 34 (Superscore) and a 3.85 UW GPA. Achievements include School District Board of Education Award, 1st at state for Healthcare Administration (FBLA), multiple FBLA and HOSA state-level awards + Nationals Qualifier, PVSA gold award, and Leukemia & Lymphoma Society Student of the Year Visionary Candidate Award. Extracurriculars include President and Founder of a cancer fundraising club, VP of Competitive Events (FBLA), Missouri Director of Outreach for Tele-Shadowing, Psychology Intern, High School Link Crew Council Leader & Mentor, High School Physician Assistant (200 hours), and participation in the John Hopkins Global Leadership Health Conference and respiratory therapy research assistant/internship at BJC.

Please let me know how I can enhance my application before the application submission in November. Thanks!

Considering that you’re in the in-state pool with relatively high academic stats, I’d say you have a high likelihood of being offered an interview.

That being said, I would see if you can get more healthcare exposure in a variety of clinical settings. One thing that the medical school wants some level of assurance of (since you’re being offered admission to the medical school as a high school senior) is that you know what you’re getting yourself into of what the profession of medicine encompasses. Medical school (and medicine in general) is so much more than just academics and doing well in science classes even though it’s a heavily emphasized metric.

You can see the components of the application process here: https://med.umkc.edu/bamd/admission-requirements-eligibility/

You can find the required 500 word essay here:
https://med.umkc.edu/bamd/apply/

The three Short Answer Responses (250 words each) in the supplemental application will be available when the School of Medicine Online Supplemental Application opens up which will likely be August 1st which is when the General UMKC Application for Admission opens up.

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Appreciate it! Thanks so much!

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For the Year 1s (UMKC BA/MD Class of 2030) starting this fall at UMKC, the bookstore website is newly updated. If you don’t see a required textbook appear for a course, especially for an undergraduate course, it should probably appear relatively soon in the next couple of weeks, as the summer semester at UMKC is quickly coming to an end.

MEDICINE and BMS designated course materials/textbooks are usually found on the UMKC Health Sciences Bookstore website.

a) UMKC Bookstore at the Volker Campus (undergraduate campus): https://www.umkcbookstore.com/

b) UMKC Health Sciences Bookstore at the Hospital Hill Campus:
https://www.umkc-hsbookstore.com/

You can of course search for the best deals (used and new) for course textbooks at https://www.bigwords.com/ to help you price compare. Use the ISBN (https://www.papertrue.com/blog/what-is-isbn/) to get the correct edition of the book, although keep in mind that the electronic version of a book and a hardcopy version of the book may have different ISBNs.

2024 US News med school rankings are out. With almost all top medical schools declining to provide data, US News has resorted to 4 tiers instead of numeric ranking.

All medical schools in MO are in tier 3 (SLU, Mizzou and UMKC), WashU is unranked(so are the DO schools in the state). I guess this means no more T5, T20, T50 etc. when it comes to med schools in future.

https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-medical-schools/research-rankings

US News methodology was always questionable at best and never reflected the actual quality of a medical education offered by any particular school.

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Why would that matter? Regardless of where you attend MD or DO school, you will graduate being a doctor. Your residency will matter…so do well in all of your rotations, shelf tests, and Step tests. That matters.

The U.S. News & World Report (USNWR) rankings of medical schools were always good when it came to groupings (tiers) of medical schools rather than the actual individual specific ordinal ranking (back then it was only allopathic medical schools, I don’t know how it is now).

So a top tier medical school vs. a middle tier medical school (or a top 5, top 10, top 20) vs. say comparing a #5 vs. a #8 medical school (that’s just splitting hairs when it comes to making a differentiation on prestige). Of course this was back when medical schools were much more in voluntary compliance with submitting data to USNWR.

But even back then, it gave very limited information when it came to the type of things that students should look at when it comes to properly evaluating a particular medical school to make a matriculation decision. For the longest time, UMKC School of Medicine never submitted data to USNWR (so we were labeled as an “unranked” medical school) because most of us never took the MCAT or had an undergraduate GPA before matriculating. That finally changed in 2020: https://med.umkc.edu/making-the-ranks-of-medical-schools/.

You can read more about why some medical schools stopped submitting data to USWNR here:

https://www.aamc.org/news/more-medical-schools-withdraw-us-news-rankings-how-should-prospective-students-decide-where-apply

https://hub.jhu.edu/2023/05/16/school-of-medicine-withdraws-from-us-news-rankings/

A much better list of questions to answer when it comes to individuals evaluating medical schools can be found here:

From AAMC: https://students-residents.aamc.org/applying-medical-school/selecting-medical-school-35-questions-i-wish-i-had-asked

From University of Colorado: https://www.colorado.edu/ceprehealth/sites/default/files/attached-files/questions_i_wish_id_asked_before_choosing_my_medical_school.pdf

For those who are applying for the UMKC 6-Year BA/MD program this year (entering in 2025), I just wanted to make you all aware that both the General Application for Admission to UMKC and the School of Medicine Online Supplemental Application are available now. Both applications have to be completed in order to have a complete file.

Go here and read very carefully the UMKC BA/MD application timeline: https://med.umkc.edu/bamd/timeline/

Since most of you are probably still on your summer break and your senior year of high school has not started yet, you may want to start filling out both applications as you have 3 full months (13 weeks from today to be exact) to do it.

Both are due by November 1st, which is on a Friday. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE have both applications completed & submitted before that November 1st date. Don’t wait until October 31st or November 1st to submit, as unplanned computer glitches and system overloads can sometimes happen.

Do not submit your application late as there are more than enough students who follow directions and submit the application on time that you risk your entire application not even being looked at. If you’re someone who procrastinates (and I think we all somewhat have that quality, just at very different levels), at least for this one thing, do not do it. Get out a planner/calendar/organizer smartphone app and break up the application for completion into pieces in this next 13 weeks.

Read the instructions in the supplemental application VERY carefully. Here’s an example: The supplemental application asks for 3-5 people (teachers, counselors, school administrators) to submit a reference form online on your behalf (formal letters of recommendation are not accepted for application to UMKC’s BA/MD program). Make sure you submit those requests to those people BEFORE you finally end up submitting your application. Give them more than enough time to fill it out because keep in mind that your teachers, counselors, school administrators at your high school are getting requests from many other students for their college applications too. All application materials supporting documents (Reference forms, High school transcripts, Test scores) must also be submitted by November 1st to be considered on time. So it’s not just your application that you fill out that has to be submitted on time, but also the UMKC School of Medicine receiving the other stuff by that date as well.

One of the reasons that the application takes time is that certain sections take longer to think and write out, whether that’s a description of your involvement in different activities & organizations or the personal statement (500 words) & short essays (250 words each). Since those take the longest, take time to work on those now, go through rough drafts and revisions. Maybe have an English teacher or your school counselor look over and proofread your personal statement and essays to make sure that your writing & writing style, grammar, spelling, and punctuation are correct: https://bigfuture.collegeboard.org/help-center/who-should-i-ask-review-my-college-essay.

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