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Yes, and Star Trek Wrath of Khan, and of course the Chrysler LeBaron commercials with the “rich Corinthian leather”.</p>
<p>Too obvious?</p>
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Yes, and Star Trek Wrath of Khan, and of course the Chrysler LeBaron commercials with the “rich Corinthian leather”.</p>
<p>Too obvious?</p>
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And 1 billion Chinese and Indian kids will have a heck of a hard time getting here, because of the money needed to come here.
Well let’s assume they manage to get through our open borders. Its’ not hard.</p>
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How about if we forced people who came here on a visa to put down a deposit, or better yet, have a sponsor in the US who will be 100% responsible if they disappear?
These are migrant workers in their own countries, have no money.
So sound like the system is different for them is that correct?</p>
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we encourage US citizens to pay fair wages to those who do menial tasks, so there is no benefit to hire an illegal alien
There are no jobs for the legal ones let alone fair wages. When my daughter and her friends graduated from college they could only found part-time job as less than 20 hours, the other one could only found internship that paid for gas. Fair wages? What’s that? Are you serious?</p>
<p>I am fascinated by the people who criticize Americans who oppose illegal immigration but have nothing to say about the leaders of their own countries who shove them out like refuse but are happy to benefit from their remittances. there are villains in this story, but they aren’t ordinary Americans. And when people ignore the destruction to families, communities and cultures that is caused by pushing people out of their homes, it tells me that their complaints are about their feelings or their money or their politics and not in the least about the actual human beings.</p>
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Reductio ad absurdum, where you assume that if we let a few illegals stay under specific circumstances, suddenly a billion illegals will enter the country, is silly.
No I’m not assuming, there are 2 billions Chinese and maybe one million Indian today, 1 billion is only 1/3 of that population. It’s not silly. It’s a hypothetical question but it makes you wonder whether the policy for illegal immigrants is right if there is no limit. </p>
<p>I live in a neighborhood with lots of Chinese from China so I know.</p>
<p>"… he technically could have left and gone back to Mexico and applied for a student visa to come to school in the US, correct? So, he really chose to remain here as an undocumented immigrant."</p>
<p>And chances of him successfully getting a visa after violating the US immigration law are infinitely close to 0 (he even quoted the MIT adcom who told him the same thing). I am sure that if he knew that system would give him a chance to right the wrong in this way he would have followed through, but in practice a person like him is forced to continue to violate the law because his student visa application would be denied with close to 100% certainty. </p>
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What has the US done in particular to help decrease executions and kidnappings in Mexico?
I’ll send them to Pelosi. Just kidding. I don’t know why is our responsibility to deal with Mexico, it’s an internal problem right. Unless we get to annex Mexico? </p>
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I am sure both Harvard and UCSF did not accept these kids based on their immigration status. Neither schools owe me an explanation if they did not accept my kids. These schools are looking to build a class with as much diversity as they see fit.</p>
<p>To think that our kids can be classmates to some of these kids and learn much from them while some of us on this forum are so toxic toward these individuals is mind boggling.</p>
<p>I was unaware that a government ID was not required for those under 18 when travelling domestically.</p>
<p>I have nothing but love for these undocumented kids who are getting these opportunities to better themselves, their communities and the US, even when my own kids do not get the financial boost that these kids receive.</p>
<p>I googled the UCSF reference made upthread and found the below article, which reminded me of a segment I saw on TV a few years ago. Kudos to these individuals doing so well against all odds.
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<p>I have no idea what the record of the illegal immigrant in the article (Dario) is like. However, I do know that he attended the CTY program at Johns Hopkins for 4 straight years, and apparently also took a college engineering class. I’m not sure what going “against all odds” means. I would expect a person attending the CTY program multiple years to be prepared for college. So there’s no disadvantage compared to the children of professionals which have been so derisively described as “privaleged” on this thread. Even if he got an “A” in the engineering class, that is completely unremarkable in the Harvard pool.</p>
<p>It does seem like the illegal immigrant backstory was attractive. That doesn’t make any sense to me. </p>
<p>@DrGoogle aiding mexico’s economy and government will help the country to get fully on its feet. If the Mexican people are able to find jobs and be happy they won’t come here. </p>
<p>It’s not just Mexico. Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador are major problems. Interestingly, it is often the indigenous people who are encouraged to leave.</p>
<p>Newsie, haven’t we been doing the aiding in the last 30 years. I remember Ronald Reagan signed to allow the illegal became legal at one point. If my memory serves me correctly, it was like 8 million people.</p>
<p>Zoo, I work with somebody from Guatemala, she comes and goes there every year. I asked her if it’s dangerous, she said it’s not like Mexico. And she plans to return there when she retires. So what the problem with Guatemala?</p>
<p>Drgoogle, have you looked at the numbers of Central American immigrants coming over this summer? Many from Guatemala, El Salvador and Honduras. Euphemistically referred to as unaccompanied minors fleeing violence. Of course, in real terms that means that they are 80-90% males in their late teens fleeing poverty.</p>
<p>I read that at least 70% of them have not reported in to ICE as promised. </p>
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my son is very happy at the university where he chose to attend. I was posting my feelings; not his. My son had a long list of why he didn’t want to bother applying to HYPS, etc. Distance, waste of application fees, too far from home, etc. I like this website because as parents we can vent and let off steam. I guess I should be over it but it still bugs me how Harvard and other IVY schools allow only students in (it seems to me at least) with the best sob story or the legacy student. I wish the middle class would revolt and stop applying to these schools. How much money do they make off application fees alone? My son was determined they were not going to get any of our hard-earned money.</p>
<p>I firmly believe Harvard can admit anyone they choose for any reason they choose. It does bug me the way all of the top schools seem to solicit applications from students who have no chance of being accepted. It certainly creates the appearance of them trying to lower their acceptance rate, in a competitive field where schools are ranked in inverse order of their acceptance rate. I really think there should be a quick pre-screening process (for no fee) where prospective applicants are told not to bother to apply. They should be told: Our 5% acceptance rate does NOT mean you have a 5% chance. Your chances of being accepted approach zero, but feel free to apply if you must. </p>
<p>37 years ago I was applying to MBA programs. I completed a couple of applications to top schools that asked me to discuss my greatest lifetime accomplishment. The Harvard application asked for my THREE greatest accomplishments. I couldn’t come up with 3 (I have since learned that being potty trained is an acceptable answer, although that might only be for the undergraduate program). I got halfway through the application and realized that it was not going to get me admitted, so I saved my application fee and did not apply to Harvard. </p>
<p>We could not afford CTY programs for our kid, though she was qualified. I guess that’s part of us being chumps and following rules and paying bills and other boring traditional moral stuff like that.
Btw, you know why the corrupt governments of Mexico et al are happy to have their citizens emigrate? It’s a pressure valve that keeps them from having to face an angry populace rallying for reforms.</p>
<p>Zoo, I saw that on TV and that’s why I asked my friend. Is Guatemala the country next to Belize?
It maybe the hordes of people just want to come here because the coyotes told them liberal immigration policies in the USA. Promise of Amnesty in the works.</p>
<p>Scholar, the CTY program is not all it’s cracked up to be. Mine attended one because she likes the location.</p>
<p>Dr google, it seems to not be clear, but I am agreeing with you. It isn’t violence, the influx is mostly about economic issues and is being encouraged by word of mouth of the lack of enforcement</p>