<p>I think the coincidence is the word of mouth about permisos. You can’t underestimate that. Also, letting so many come here does nothing to preserve families, communities and cultures. The national governments owe their people and need to be held accountable. What is not a coincidence is that the people being encouraged to leave their countries and send their money back are the brown, indigenous people. There is a huge element of racism involves.</p>
<p>The reason illegal Mexican immigration is down is because the US has an agreement with Mexico now, to immediately return border crossers back to Mexico.</p>
<p>Bay, the decrease I am talking about isn’t in the immediate past, it’s a couple of years ago now.</p>
<p>Ok, you are right I was referring to the immediate “unaccompanied minor” crossings.</p>
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<p>I think there’s a huge element of classism. If these brown indigenous people arrived on jets, sporting neckties, graduate degrees & work visas, then they’d be welcomed w open arms.</p>
<p>And what about that classism? I think that is what we need to be discussing versus speculating about why they are here. Should we be required to take in all of the world’s poor?</p>
<p>@OspreyCV22 eh keep quiet. Your words have nothing to do but trying to bring unnecessary topics about immigrant.s This isn’t a Yahoo website, this is a college admission immigration topic. I can tell that you have no type of empathy for the hard working class. He just stated that he is a lucky person, not everyone is rejected for illegals. For real man, watch what you say. </p>
<p>Yes, zoosermom, it is a serious question. For an adult immigrant who comes to the US speaking no English, how much has changed that enables that person to learn to speak English today compared to 100 years ago?</p>
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<p>@Bay. The point I was hinting at is no country nowadays wants poor, uneducated immigrants. Even countries that have liberal immigration policies, like Canada, don’t want poor people of any race. </p>
<p>Canadian immigration priority is granted on the basis of: education, language (proficiency in english or french), employment experience, age, arranged employment, adaptability. </p>
<p>I gotcha GMT. I’d like to hear from the pro-illegal immigrant crowd. </p>
<p>Fireandrain,
I don’t know anything about 100 years ago, but CA offers tons of free ESL classes for adults. </p>
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<p>QUOTE" @OspreyCV22 eh keep quiet. Your words have nothing to do but trying to bring unnecessary topics about immigrant.s This isn’t a Yahoo website, this is a college admission immigration topic. I can tell that you have no type of empathy for the hard working class. He just stated that he is a lucky person, not everyone is rejected for illegals. For real man, watch what you say."</p>
<p>Are you threatening me? Do you have good reading comprehension skills? My role in this discussion was several days ago:</p>
<p>09-25-2014 at 12:02 am I said:</p>
<p>"Incredible. It’s late teenagers/young adults who are most likely to pull off terroristic plots. I see this as a big hole in air security.</p>
<p>To the original topic it seems unfair that the qualified children of parents who played by our country’s rules are rejected in favor of illegal immigrants. It’s not the authors’ fault his parents are cheating the system. Harvard is a private institution so I guess they get to make their own rules.</p>
<p>My brother and father are Harvard graduates. We are not wealthy and they were both scholarship recipients. I feel a little sad that my own son, a junior in HS now, is probably a better student than either of them were but has a snowball’s chance. We won’t waste the admission fee. "</p>
<p>I was surprised that illegals can fly on planes. I see that as a terrible lapse in national security. When my son at 15 was invited to visit the White House he had to have picture I.D. To get that quickly we had to go to the state DMV with a passport, his social security card, and a birth certificate. </p>
<p>He has a very high score on his early SATs and is an honor student. He has many family members who went to Harvard but he probably wouldn’t be considered because I did not break the law bringing him into the world. If you are offended, finish reading this thread. Some people have LOTS more to say.</p>
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<p>Actually, very few wealthy people in other countries would prefer to be in America, as evidenced by low take up of the investor category green card schemes. The main reason - if you are already rich and living in a nice house, speaking your own language every day, why on earth would you sign up to lifetime of interaction with the IRS?</p>
<p>Sorghum,
That does not seem to be true, according to this article.
Those visas are completely maxed out. </p>
<p>Oops sorry, IPhone posting problems.</p>
<p>Here’s the article: <a href=“After Overwhelming U.S. Visa Program, Where Will China's Emigrants Go Next? - WSJ”>After Overwhelming U.S. Visa Program, Where Will China's Emigrants Go Next? - WSJ;
<p>@sorghum,
So true. I have a british colleague who is married to a US national and wants neither PR nor citizenship, bcs it wd mean a lifetime of taxation & hounding by the IRS, no matter where in the world she lives. </p>
<p>The US is a VERY unattractive immigration destination for people who intend to pay taxes and maintain an int’l lifestyle. If you’re picking a country from scratch, Canada wd make more sense. But I see that Canada shuttered its immigrant investor program.</p>
<p>@bay according to Zhang and Associates, Immigration law firm, </p>
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<p>Basically, only this year is the program getting up to fully subscribed, and that is ONLY because of big demand from China. Not surprisingly, wealthy Chinese immigrants will be the least afraid of the IRS, as it would be rather easy for them to leave assets there out of sight. The whole world other than China, even with quota available, there are barely 1000 people taking up the offer.</p>
<p>Ok, but this line from the article I posted cracked me up:</p>
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<p>I’m guessing they all want to go to UC Berkeley and UCLA as CA residents. Lol</p>
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<p>Well, yeah, obviously. We want educated people here who can make the country more prosperous, we don’t want illiterate refugees who don’t speak a word of English. Is this controversial? </p>
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<p>Don’t know exactly what you mean by low:</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/USCIS/Outreach/Upcoming%20National%20Engagements/Upcoming%20National%20Engagement%20Pages/2012%20Events/May%202012/EB-5Stats.pdf”>http://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/USCIS/Outreach/Upcoming%20National%20Engagements/Upcoming%20National%20Engagement%20Pages/2012%20Events/May%202012/EB-5Stats.pdf</a></p>
<p>Yes, it’s true that if everyone had to pay to be an immigrant to the US, there would be fewer immigrants to the US. </p>
<p>If the process was more streamlined we might find more people willing to take them up. </p>
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Apparently barcakid39 doesn’t have good reading comprehension skills (also discernible by reading through his posts; writing skills need work, also!) He needs to get off the parent forum.</p>
<p>“Took the SAT twice on Junior Year.
Will be senior and plan to take the SAT in October.
First SAT: CR-390; MA-560;WR-550
Second SAT: CR-400; MA-550; WR-460” </p>
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You know, when I made the comment about racism, I was referring to the home countries, not the US. I believe that the indigenous people are unwelcome in their home countries because of the historical background of imperialism-related racism. It’s not tall Europeans who are being ignored, neglected and pushed out of their homes and having their bodies and labor treated as disposable commodities.</p>
<p>Fireandrain, I say with the greatest respect, that it would be far better if you sat down and thought about the changes in the world in the time period under discussion. Things like technology and employment. Manufacturing and agriculture. I think you will then come to understand what I am saying.</p>