<p>Exactly that is the point. People keep complaining how the standard of living is not good for them as when their grandparents were here. Too many people chasing few goods are probably the result.</p>
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<p>Your comment to me suggested that illegal immigration is innately wrong because it’s illegal, but perhaps I misinterpreted. I know we can’t let everyone in, but once a child is approaching college, I think the window has passed to deport them, or deny them federal and education services.</p>
<p>Anyways like I said, I think this conversation has run its course, so I will retreat to the transfer forum from which I came.</p>
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U cd preempt that problem by not admitting kids for free into public K-12 who are not legal residents. </p>
<p>All the expat kids in my kids’ former int’l school leave the host country to attend college elsewhere.</p>
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<p>That’s why we have a legal amendment framework. </p>
<p>People can disagree with our laws, and that is their prerogative, but they will still be subject to punishment if they disobey them. Many people agree with and support our immigration laws, because they are orderly and make sense, are generous and help keep our country safe and secure while not squandering our resources. If they had been respected by non-citizens, and been enforced as written, we wouldn’t have many of the problems we have today, including some 18 year olds being frustrated that they can’t go to the college they want or for the same price as legal residents. </p>
<p>A lot of you guys are criticizing the fact that, “this student is taking away the opportunity of other students” simply because Harvard wanted to supposedly take advantage of some opportunity to strengthen their political agenda. However, I think you guys are being slightly misguided in your critiques.</p>
<p>This student had to no doubt be a very qualified student to get accepted to Harvard. He attended about 5 Fly-In programs and I can tell you from experience that these fly-in programs are fairly selective (though obviously not as selective as Harvard).</p>
<p>Obviously there might be a lot of problems with this situation, but this kid was most likely a qualified student in a tough situation and Harvard decided to support his plight.</p>
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<p>There are probably a million qualified, needy kids in India, too. Why not fly them in, too?</p>
<p>Whatsoever you do to the least of my brothers…</p>
<p>So he’s in, admitted to Harvard, full ride. Harvard probably didn’t even require him to come up with the $3000 or so student contribution because this guy can’t work! He can’t have work study, he can’t have a job because no one can legally hire him. I have to send my daughter her SS card tomorrow because she just got a job and has to prove she has the right to work.</p>
<p>And after he graduates? Still can’t have a job. He has no valid SSN. I have no idea how the medical student will work a residency, since he can’t work either.</p>
<p>Today my personal frustration was reading that the federal government is requiring states to let the undocumented children into schools without vaccination documents. I had to spend two days getting my 100% documented children, with vaccination records, into a school in Florida when we moved here. Florida requires the records to be on FLORIDA forms so I had to go to the Health Dept to have the records transferred to the correct forms. Now, the feds are telling states that no records are required. Why if I was required to go prove my kids had been vaccinated do these children not have to do the same?</p>
<p>What good does it do to college educate people who then can’t get a legal job? Harvard couldn’t even hire him as a professor unless he has a right to work status. I think the system needs to be coordinated. If we are going to now let undocumented people get driver’s licenses and attend college, we must change the rules so they can work to pay for those cars and insurance and tuition bills. And pay taxes. If we have TSA rules that require proof of identity, and citizenship, to fly (Patriot Act), then enforce them uniformly. Don’t let people fly who can’t prove who they are and that they are legally in this country. I had to show a passport to get both my California driver’s license and then my Florida license. Those licenses are ‘TSA valid’ but now TSA is letting people fly without TSA documents. That is not right, and not legal.</p>
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<p>Jesus gave out fishes and loaves, and it helped that there was a conservation-of-mass and taxpayer miracle where the fishes and loaves were both unlimited and free.</p>
<p>I think Dario can work now because of DACA. And if not, sylvan will be happy to take him in and support him.</p>
<p>I don’t understand sylvan’s comment. Very crypted.</p>
<p>Her comment meant she will give everything she has to make Dario’s life as good as her own.</p>
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<p>While we were still living in the States when our kids were preschoolers, we had an au pair girl whom we helped to apply for a green card in the visa lottery. She actually got selected.</p>
<p>She went back to her home country and dotted all the legal i’s and crossed all the legal t’s. Then we helped her to immigrate. We were her official sponsors and bought her a plane ticket. She lived with us a year while she got on her feet, and we helped her with references to land a full-time job. She got a green card, got a job, got an apartment, and went to community college. All legally.</p>
<p>So tell me again why illegal immigrants should be able to cut the line?</p>
<p>I used to work with someone from Switzerland or maybe Scandinavia. He won the loterry and got here that way.</p>
<p>@GMTplus7 Because the system is still broken even if works for one girl. The queue is getting longer and you’re already screwed if you’re from a country with a high migration rate to the US (or a high population) and don’t have any connections within the US.</p>
<p>A few years down the road, the amount of time you’ll have to wait for a green card will double. There’s just not enough of a quota to give people a fighting chance. It feels as convoluted as applying to Harvard to just get into the United States and be able to live here.</p>
<p>Then they can go to college in their country of citizenship the same way my grew-up-overseas expat kids & their classmates are going to do</p>
<p>It’s hard but do you know any country that let illegal or even legal in easily beside the United States. My daughters are dual citizens but one of her friend would love to live in Uk. She’s done research and such, found out it’s even harder to get citizenship even if you are married to a uk citizen.
One of the Asian girl that was one of co founder of the DreamAct, was born in Germany but was not German Citizen. Perhaps these countries should change their laws so people wouldn’t have to come here illegally. She was stateless but able to attend UCLA and Brown for free.
Even though, United States is a country of immigrants but it can only support limited amount of people before the system collapse or we will become a third word country. Right now we have close to 40-50 millions people live in poverty line. Let’s take care of the people who are already here. Poster who asked have we visited Mexico to know how poor it is, well my question is have that poster visit Compton, Watts,etc.
I work with a lot of people from this area and even though they have a well paying job, they are still poor. Some of my coworkers told me they rarely could afford to eat out. My daughter knows somebody whose parents only make $20k a year and they have been here for a while,ie non immigrants.</p>
<p>I have PLENTY and PLENTY of expat friends & colleagues who repatriated to their home country. After being educated most of their lives in English, the kids had a hard time assimilating in their native country linguistically & culturally, but they all survived and moved on. </p>