<p>In our speech class, our presentation grades are 1/2 from the teacher and 1/2 from our classmates. </p>
<p>In the first presentation, I received low 80s from my classmates and high 80s from my teacher. Since, in my opinion, my classmates did not do well, my ratings to others are in the mid 70s. </p>
<p>Then in the second presentation, I received mid 70s from my classmates and low 90s from my teacher. My classmates told me that they are taking revenge on my low ratings, and I should “do unto others”. They also said that I have to rate them highly for them to rate me highly. </p>
<p>I really want to continue rating honestly, but this paradigm is stopping me from doing so, as I am trying to be the valedictorian / salutatorian. </p>
<p>Should I persuade her to stop using his paradigm? If ever, how should I do it. </p>
<p>It wouldn’t help if she made it anonymous at this point, because they’d still know they were getting low ratings because of you, but it should have been anonymous from the beginning.</p>
<p>@halcyonheather: It is anonymous, but they figured out because of my handwriting. Some also forced me to tell my rating to them. I just followed the teacher’s guidelines for rating. </p>
<p>By the way, the rating criteria is 5 points for each of projection, pace, pause, pitch, pronunciation, presentation (looks), and eye contact. </p>
<p>I really don’t know how could I give a high grade to someone who sounds monotonous, mispronounces every third word, and talks way too fast. </p>
<p>@HateBeinSober & TeamRocketGrunt: I am not asking for free points. I think that the teacher’s grade is fair (my grade is above the average of 80), and my ratings VERY CLOSELY MATCH the teacher’s rating. </p>
<p>It would be fine if my classmates are as strict as my teacher, but it seems unfair for them to retaliate by rating very low. </p>
<p>When I told my teacher about what happened, she said that it’s good because she usually rates lowly. </p>
<p>I can’t also give 100s for everyone because the teacher would weed out scores that does not reflect the presentor’s true quality of his presentation. </p>
<p>She won’t weed out, though, my rating, because it is not far off her rating (is 10 points far off?)</p>
<p>I am trying to keep As in all subjects but this paradigm will make me a B+ in this subject. (note that all my other subjects are A+s) </p>
<p>I found this funny. In my AP class last year we all mostly helped each other out. There were a couple in the class that were brutal graders and some people turned on them. I never even looked at what the other people put, generally I gave them a perfect score.</p>
<p>So is it recommended into giving perfect scores and having a chance for my scores to be pulled out? (the teacher actually GAVE SOMEONE A ZERO last year for giving perfect scores to everyone, or if it is obvious that that person is not thinking)</p>
<p>This has been bugging me. Should I present this to a higher office (like the supervisor or the principal?)</p>
<p>If you present this issue to someone with higher authority though, you risk making the teacher a bit mad. You don’t have to give people 100s, what are other kids in your class giving out? Or maybe instead of grading as accurate as possible, be more lenient in your grading. </p>
<p>At any rate, your teacher should see that there’s a problem if she’s giving you scores in the 90s and your classmates are giving you 70s.</p>
<p>I told the teacher, and she told me that that was good for me (I really don’t know why). </p>
<p>When I would tell the higher authority, I would not give the teacher’s name, as it is not only in her class that that happens; but the effect is only that extreme in her class, since she instructed to grade fairly; and I am following her instructions. (is my punctuation correct in this sentence?)</p>
<p>@halycon: They don’t want to follow the teacher. </p>
<p>By the way, I am really not popular, as I am considered a nerd in some ways (can’t avoid it: studying at breaks and lunch time and after class, to have time for other stuff when I get home)</p>
<p>One time in my AP bio class, we had groups and we were told to grade each other’s posters. Without actually saying it, we all agreed we all deserved A’s on the project. Except for a girl that was a judge for one particular group. She was scrutinizing everyone’s posters and so we did the same for her group’s poster. I don’t even think the grades we gave mattered in the end, but we believed they did, so all of the groups ended up giving them 70’s. Some people even had a few choice words to say to the girl.</p>
<p>If the teacher knows they’re doing this, she can weed out the unusually low scores kids give you when she grades you. Does she understand that they’re rating you low just because you didn’t rate them high?</p>
<p>Also, you said if you gave them 100s the teacher would weed those out too, which means your classmates would probably be getting low grades regardless of how you rated them.</p>
<p>I told them about the 100s issue. Then they told me “why don’t you give me 90s instead of 70s?” Basically something like that. It is over 35. One of them even said: “I gave you 21(/35) because you failed me last time”. For the record, my score to that particular person was, IIRC, 20/30, which is slightly below our school’s passing grade of 70%.</p>
<p>Only up to 2 scores are going to be weeded out. I am actually worried, because in my first presentation, before the revenge thing, the classmates’ average is 24.55/30, with most scores (75% of them), being 24 or 25, a bunch of 26 (about 3), then a 21 and a 29. It seems like that the 29 is more of an aberration than the 21, so there is a risk of both of them being weeded out. </p>
<p>By the way, the teacher’s score there is 26/30, so there is already a difference of 1.45/30, which is about 4%. In the second presentation, the ratings are around 27/35 for classmates and 32/35 for teacher, so the difference is around 15%. </p>
<p>Aside from presentations, these things also happen within a group, where each member is to judge the other person’s contribution. I thought that I had no problem with that since I usually do 90% of the work. BUT NO! I still get average grades there, and there are threats of giving me the lowest possible grade if I don’t give them perfect scores. (luckily, I explained it to the teacher and she gave me the highest possible grade there; however, I still do not understand this method.) I know that there is a “noble” purpose for that, but it seems like everything done for a noble purpose would have a loophole discovered eventually and would eventually become corrupted.</p>
<p><quote>One of them even said: “I gave you 21(/35) because you failed me last time”. For the record, my score to that particular person was, IIRC, 20/30, which is slightly below our school’s passing grade of 70%.</quote></p>
<p>Sounds like the kid was more than fair, considering you failed him and he was nice enough to at least give you a passing grade. </p>
<p><quote>Then they told me “why don’t you give me 90s instead of 70s?”</quote></p>
<p>That’s perfectly justifiable. I’m sure that if you would have given out low 90s or even high 80s, they would have given you a fairer score.</p>
<p>I’m not saying you don’t deserve a better grade than what they’re giving you. I’m just saying that I think that the true nature of these assignments are to teach how to work well with others.</p>
<p>I understand that you’re being candid and all, but try to be a tad bit lenient. I got an 83 on my last presentation (Partially because it was a group one) and ONLY my teacher graded it. Here’s what you do though, if you don’t like whats going on, just ask to be graded individually during lunch or after school. If none of this works, then just try to negotiate with your teacher. I find it stupid how its left up to the students to determine like half of that group. Or just promote an idea stating that grades should be anonymous and such.</p>