University of Arizona Disappointed by PBS Documentary

<p>University of Arizona officials are giving poor reviews to a public-television documentary set, in part, on the Tucson campus, saying it offers an incomplete and unflattering picture of the university. </p>

<p>“We thought a portrait of the University of Arizona was going to be painted, and instead, we just got a caricature,” Paul G. Allvin, a university spokesman, said of the program, Declining by Degrees: Higher Education at Risk, which was shown on Thursday night on some PBS stations across the country. </p>

<p>“We are concerned that people are going to watch it and be left with an impression of a university that doesn’t actually exist.” </p>

<p>Arizona officials complained that the documentary focused on disgruntled professors, large lecture classes, and disengaged students who skated through classes with minimal effort. In reality, they say, the average class size at the university is 29 students. Forty percent of faculty members attended training last year to become better teachers, Mr. Allvin said. </p>

<p>University officials now say they regret being one of those that participated in the project. “There’s more damage done to the University of Arizona than benefit derived,” Peter Likins, the university’s president, told the Arizona Daily Star, a Tucson newspaper. </p>

<p>But John Merrow, executive producer of the program, says it was “more than fair” to the university, adding that the best teacher he met was Tom Fleming, a lecturer in astronomy at Arizona. </p>

<p>And, Mr. Merrow says, the documentary is not just about the University of Arizona, but about the state of American higher education. He said he fears that the higher-education system in the United States is declining while other countries are accelerating their investments. </p>

<p>“We’re in the position to be eaten for lunch,” Mr. Merrow said. “I think this is urgent.” </p>

<p>The documentary, shot over the course of two years, is set on four college campuses: the University of Arizona, a large research university; Amherst College, a private liberal-arts college; Western Kentucky University, a regional public university; and the Community College of Denver, an urban two-year institution. </p>

<p>Bob Skipper, a spokesman for Western Kentucky, said on Thursday that officials at the 18,000-student college were “anxious” to see the documentary after viewing a trailer and reading reviews. “The tone of what we’ve seen so far is not so flattering, and we’re hoping the rest of the show is more balanced,” he said. </p>

<p>In Denver, faculty and staff members were planning to gather at a sports bar on Thursday night to watch the program. Christine Johnson, the college’s president, said it is important that community colleges be included in the debate over the future of higher education. </p>

<p>“Community colleges don’t have prestige, and I think they’re too often overlooked as a quality choice,” Ms. Johnson said. </p>

<p>A spokesman for Amherst College, Paul Statt, said officials at the private college in Massachusetts were glad to participate in the documentary because the problems facing higher education need to be featured. But Mr. Statt questioned whether complex issues like affordability and access can be fully tackled in a single television program. </p>

<p>“I’m not sure if it’s possible in two hours to connect all the dots of the problems facing higher education,” he said. </p>

<p>In conjunction with the documentary, a companion book – featuring essays by 16 commentators and edited by Mr. Merrow and Richard H. Hersh, a former president of Hobart and William Smith Colleges and Trinity College (Conn.) – is being published. </p>

<p>Additional information can be found on the program’s</p>

<p>I thought it was superb! I turned it on to escape from the basketball game, and ended up watching the whole thing!</p>

<p>Oh man, when was it on?</p>

<p>Gasp! You didn’t watch the whole game?? Why here in San Antonio you would have thought it was the second coming of Christ! Big, celebratory river parade tomorrow night(hopefully, it will only in the low 90’s by nightfall)</p>

<p>Damn you San Antonio people… Us Detroiters should be having the parade.</p>

<p>When was this on?</p>

<p>It’s on tonight (Friday) at 9:00 pm on 'GBH in Boston. Not on the HD channel, unfortunately.</p>

<p>So here’s what they showed at Univ. of Arizona:
– 235 students in intro. to comparative politics lecture. Prof lectured. said she only gives multiple choice/fill in the blanks exams - she couldn’t possibly grade papers or long-answer tests. Complains she is a full prof and makes only $65k.
– Her class had three discussion sections. But no discussion took place in any of them, reported the TAs. (They also seemed to be poorly attended.) Pointedly, I noticed that not a single one of the students seemed to have a book of any kind.
– New student center, with 24-hour computer access, and tutors/writing help/advisors available;
– Profs got to attend a week of workshops about how to teach;
– Astronomy prof was very engaging, and had come up with new techniques to excite students; said as most of the students were in his class to meet science requirement and for no other reason, he felt he had to meet them “at least half way” to make the class engaging. Said he’d never get tenure or be considered for it simply as a result of his teaching;
– New student dining hall set up to look like a huge shopping mall (students liked it);
– Merit aid given out to attract smart kids, 500 out of a total of 37,000. They segregated them - separate honors dorms, separate workshops, separate classes. The two students interviewed had full rides, one so large that she actually made money by going to school;
– Students reported they averaged doing less than an hour of work out of class everyday; one (a senior) said she had written exactly two papers in four years, and was somewhat disappointed by the lack of challenge;
– The basketball coach makes more than twice the college prez; the college prez was unapologetic;
– The basketball coach was unapologetic about folks leaving after two years to go pro. He said that if IBM came in and offered $15 million to a student to drop out and go work for them, he could hardly justify telling the student to stay;
– The basketball athlete said he split his time 80% basketball; 20% everything else, including academics;
– The basketball team costs $4 million, and brings in $9 million; the $9 million does not go to the university generally, but to support the rest of the athletic program;
– The university is building lots of new, big buildings.</p>

<p>All in all, it seemed a rather fair, balanced, and complete presentation of the issues.</p>

<p>boo, I’m sorry I missed this. My PBS station showed it last night. Any other reports from people who saw it?</p>

<p>Niece will be attendiing UofAz this fall on athletic-academic, honors scholarship. Hope it works out and not as bad as Mini, you say it is.</p>

<p>Those in the honors program were very, very pleased with the academic quality at UofA, had small, souped-up classes, and had turned down more “prestigious” places to be there. I have no idea how it actually is there - I was just trying to convey what I saw and heard from my television.</p>

<p>There was also a good segment on Amherst, and efforts they have made to ensure a sizeable African-American/low-income student population, how they were involved in facilities wars (the new athletic center), some snippets with Austin Sarat their most renowned prof., and shots with a student who was paying the $40k a year to go one-on-one with his physics prof. The African-American student said he knew plenty of students in Harlem who were as bright as he was but didn’t get the opportunities that he did to go anywhere. The Amherst Pres. kept talking about how his school (perhaps in contrast to their competitors?) was trying to take up its share of the “social contract” (though one could get the impression that it was the students at Western Kentucky who could have most benefitted from what Amherst was offering, and that the Amherst students would have done just fine at Western Kentucky.)</p>

<p>This show was previewed in a series of articles in the NY Times this spring. You can also go to the web site <a href=“http://www.decliningbydegrees.org%5B/url%5D”>www.decliningbydegrees.org</a> and get more info. I thought it was a fascinating and depressing look at college at “this point in time.” I think the findings at U/A would be similar to any other very large state university. there are always some who will skate through college doing the minimum required and if you are clever and somewhat careful in your choice of courses you will get away w/it. What depressed me the most was the lack of $$ for those who truly need it and for whom college will be a real step up in society. It breaks my heart to see folks who work a full time job and try to carry a full academic load too. Hopefully PBS will rebroadcast many times- call your local station and ask.</p>

<p>the listing is at <a href=“Declining by Degrees: Official Website”>Declining by Degrees: Official Website;

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As they say, there are lies, damn lies, and statistics. This fictitious “29” number is an excellent example of the genre.</p>

<p>It turns out that every college must make available the “common data set” (CDS) numbers. Those for U of A are [url="<a href="http://daps.arizona.edu/daps/cds/cds_200405_updated_forwebpage2.pdf"]here[/url"&gt;http://daps.arizona.edu/daps/cds/cds_200405_updated_forwebpage2.pdf"]here[/url</a>] One interesting chart is on page 25 which gives the number of classes of various sizes.</p>

<p>To exactly calculate averages and so forth you’d need to know the enrollment in each class; we don’t have that, so have to make some assumptions. For example those in a class banded “50-99” have 50 students best-case, but 75 might be a typical number.</p>

<p>Given the U of A chart, best-case the average class has 32 students and a more realistic number is 42. I wonder if when they calculated “class size” they averaged the class and sub-sections listed in the CDS table. </p>

<p>More importantly, one large class enrolls as many kids as a bunch of smaller classes, so the “average” is misleading. If you have one Psych 1 class of 100 students and 5 honors Psych 1 classes of 20, the average Psych 1 class size is 200/6 or 33. But 1/2 of all students are in the 100 student class, so “33” is rather meaningless to them. </p>

<p>Here’s a better approach. Suppose you print out the rosters of all the classes and then randomly pick entries from the combined list. So if Janet has 4 classes her name is in the list 4 times, once listed under the roster of each of her classes. By randomly picking from this list you get a better idea of what the experience is like; a random pick is less likely to find someone in a smaller class because the big classes hold more kids. </p>

<p>Another way to think of this is you’re picking classes at random but making the chances of choosing a class depend on its enrollment, so a class with 40 students is twice as likely to be chosen as one with 20. Choosing this way lets you get a better feel for the class size experience seen by students. You can use the CDS for this approach, although again you have to make assumptions about class size.</p>

<p>Lets see what this analysis can tell us. For U of Arizona the chances are at best 48% that a random pick from the overall roster is a kid in a class with 30 students or less. And using typical instead of best-case class sizes, its more like 36%.</p>

<p>The point is the “average class size” number of 29 from U of A doesn’t begin to capture the reality seen by the students. If you pick a random kid in a random class, the chances are only about 1/3 that the class has 30 students or less. And its about 50:50 that the class has 50 or less in it.</p>

<p>I will be attending U of A, fall of 2005 and I am very excited! I really wish I could have seen this program on PBS…</p>

<p>I thought the first hour of the show was tremendous. Every college applicant and their parents should watch it to make sound choices. The shots of all the snoozing kids in lecture classes were priceless.</p>

<p>The second hour on the financial side of higher education failed to make an important connection: that all of the huge growth in infrastructure has driven costs through the roof and resulted in an oversupply of higher education seats. The system as a whole is trying to “make it up on volume” in an environment where the incremental revenue from additional students is less than the incremental costs of the growth. It is absurd for Western Kentucky University to become a full-fledge research university. The piper is really going to be paid when the current glut of echo-boom students declines in a few years. Gonna be a lot of colleges and universities doing some serious downsizing, including the ultimate downsizing!</p>

<p>Let us properly credit the original post. It was from the Chronicle of Higher Education, dated today, written by Karin Fischer. </p>

<p>Bob Zemsky wrote an interesting article in advance of the program’s airing (it was published on 6/17 in the Chronicle). He claims that higher ed’s about where it’s always been in terms of quality and level of real crisis. I’m not sure if I agree with all his points, but it’s a good companion piece to the article posted above. I won’t duplicate it here because it’s against Chronicle’s policy, but I know some of you have access to the Chronicle anyway. I can’t tell if Zemsky’s commentary is open-access as I’m cookied.</p>

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<p>I tend to agree with that. If there has been a change, it’s probably that we are trying to send too many people to college and perhaps should rethink the system in bringing back more vocational training at the low-end.</p>

<p>My brother, who taught in the Cal State system, felt that there were a lot of kids who really would have been better served in the community college system and that the best thing California could do is cut the enrollment at the UC and CS schools.</p>