<p>wow, moses’s reply… wow… </p>
<p>have you done any research on universities???</p>
<p>moses, you mad?</p>
<p>I don’t feel bad about transferring into Berkeley because I came from one of the mid-level UCs (D/I/SB). I got into my former UC from high school and then worked my butt off at that UC to get into Berkeley and LA. If you think getting good grades at a mid-level UC is easy compared to high school, I would say that you’re smokin’ something.</p>
<p>Plus, as others have said, there are certain spots that are allocated for transfers.</p>
<p>And…THEY REVIEW YOUR (High Schoolers) APPS FIRST! If anything, you’d have the chance to take our spots, since you get first dibs so to speak.</p>
<p>Also have you ever talked to a transfer student before?</p>
<p>How do you know the transfer student didn’t work hard or wasn’t qualified?</p>
<p>Moses, do you feel guilty/bad about “cheating” your way into a state-school system just because you’re a resident of that state? I mean, surely there are more qualified people applying out of state who don’t get in…just a thought ;)</p>
<p>moses- LOL… he is an idiot… he doesn’t know what he is talking about…</p>
<p>Moses probably doesn’t live in california (sucka! lol)</p>
<p>Moses, dont worry about who “deserves” or is “qualified” to be at Berkeley, LA.I know it burns you inside that you’ll never be able to attend Berkeley or LA, but you dont have to bring your negativity in here and **** off us, prospective transfers with your stupidity.</p>
<p>Transfers do as good if not better than freshman admits, statistically. You dont know the first thing about transfer admissions, why would you accuse us of “stealing” and “cheating”</p>
<p>Go drown in your stupidity at your mediocre college and leave the best public universities to be a concern of us, “unqualified, lazy community college students” :)</p>
<p>well…</p>
<p>it IS a lot easier to get into cal and ucla through the cc route.</p>
<p>I agree that, academically, high school students who get in are more qualified than cc transfers in general.</p>
<p>we also must remember that transfers don’t have to take the lower div weeder classes… so transfers have it easy in a way.</p>
<p>transfers, however, aren’t ‘cheating’… since they’re just following the rules… which are rigged for them</p>
<p>should be though, we pay state taxes to fund both the CC and to some extent (though not as much) to the California Universities. </p>
<p>It is easier, though cheating is the wrong term. At the same time, I must say that high school was like a CC except, there were more distractions, so I guess if I had my head down during that period I could have taken that route.</p>
<p>I don’t agree that it is easier for a cc student. Consider the age and responsibilities of cc students. HS students live w/ mommy and daddy and have everything paid for and taken care of while they get their education w/ very little distractions. The classes in HS are not as vigorous as college classes regardless of what cc you are coming from. A lot of cc students are working part/full time jobs caring for families etc. in addition to 5+ classes a week which makes studying a lot more difficult because of the time constraints. Not all cc students were not qualified as HS students. I was in class w/ a student who had a 4.0 GPA in HS but for financial reasons and health issues she had decided to lighten the loan for the first two years and transfer.</p>
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hs classes >> cc classes</p>
<p>um, i hope you are joking lost!</p>
<p>I dunno what HS/CC yall went to, but HS classes were waaay harder then CC classes. I’d be at harvard right now if my HS was like my CC.</p>
<p>If HS were more difficult than any college classes than there would be no need for AP classes</p>
<p>HS AP= CC courses</p>
<p>Actually, I really don’t think I’m being immature at all. I’m not an embittered reject (by the way I am a california resident, attend University of Michigan, was accepted to UCLA/rejected from Berkeley when I applied for the 06-07 year). My impetus for making that post comes from an email that my mother received from a cc nearby. The email essentially advocated going to a cc and transferring into ucla/berkeley, saying that the average high school admit has a 4.2 while the average transfer admit has a 3.6. Also, this comes from what is considered to be the best cc in the state (DVC) and for all of you who claim that CC’s are of comparable difficulty to high school, that’s a bunch of bologne. I have a number of friends who attend this cc, and all of them say that it is MUCH easier than high school. Also, coming from a good high school, I find it offensive that kids I know decide not to take advantage of that. Instead they blow off high school, go to a cc for 2 years where maybe they work slightly harder, and get into one of the two elite UC’s. If not everybody who’s responded to my previous post is insulted by that, then you must all be smoking something. Of course I’m not going to generalize, I understand that many of you may come from mediocre high schools/didn’t have the money, if you fall into either of those groups, I guess that wouldn’t make your transfer admittance COMPLETELY illegitamate.</p>
<p>Oh, and academic08, I just have something to say about your post (by the way lostincode, I agree with everything you say). There is a reason why cc transfers do just as well statistically as others. They don’t have to suffer through all of the weeder courses, as lostincode pointed out. They get to coast through two easy years at a cc and then come right into the smaller upper level courses, so they absolutely have an edge. Essentially, high school admits have to work hard for 4 years, transfers have to work hard for 2 years.</p>
<p>Startraksfinest, I’m sure that courses at the mid-level UC’s are difficult, all the UC’s are great, I’m only referring to people who transfer from cc’s/extremely mediocre colleges.</p>
<p>i think that courses from mid-level uc’s are as difficult or maybe a little harder as the top uc’s </p>
<p>the reason being that many professors/ta’s feel that they have something to prove by making the courses difficult and that by having a low grade curve and somehow adds prestige. </p>
<p>at my uc, some departments are only allowed to give a certain percentage of a’s and b’s in all their courses.</p>
<p>moses you ■■■■■■ you ruined this thread.</p>
<p>He doesn’t even belong on these threads. I’m sure there are plenty other threads he can be on.</p>