<p>moses5729, I’m neutral then. With the sheer amount of CC transfers on here, this is one issue I’m not touching.</p>
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no, not really
that’s probably the most ignorant comment i’ve read on cc since cal decisions</p>
<p>I do agree with you that it is more difficult to get into those schools out of high school but i don’t think it’s not fair because the high school students (or anyone) can choose to go the CC route and transfer as well.</p>
<p>My teachers knew what high school I went to at my CC based soley from what I turned in HW wise. HS is harder, and in my opinion will determine how easy, or not, a CC is. I think CC classes are comparable to HS courses (not APs , or Honor’s for that matter) but I think I am much smarter and have different study habits now in comparison to High School. So that coupled with less courses per term and a generally easy going schedule translates into CCs being easier. </p>
<p>And Moses, I don’t think you can generalize what a mid tier UC is/low end university as much anymore. You might, judging from, I will go out on a short limb here, lack of background knowledge and ignorance coming out of HS (we all have the only go to top 20 schools syndrome) think some schools compare weakly to top tier schools, but that doesn’t mean they are trash and nothing is being taught there. The material is the same, and the difficulty varies much less than you imply.</p>
<p>Mylifeisover, that is the most pointless post. Most hardworking high school students don’t want to go that route. Obviously many of you lack a sense of pride, but there are a lot of people who (I know it sounds shocking) think that it’s shameful to transfer after 2 years, yet still receive the same degree (the degree doesn’t say transfer student) of that of someone who has been there all four years. I’m going to be completely blunt here, people who take the cc route into berkeley/ucla are generally undeserving for two reasons. </p>
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<li>classes at cc’s are easier</li>
<li>GPA requirements for admittance are significantly lower</li>
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<p>Niggit, I’ve essentially only been discussing cc’s, which I know for a fact are SIGNIFICANTLY easier.</p>
<p>Continue to make these weak points, I maintain that it’s illegitimate, I’d say a lot of people would agree with me. Call me elitist, but Berkeley/LA are for elite students, not cc transfers with 3.6’s. Also, I know virtually nobody who got into some UC besides berk/LA and decided to go to a cc instead, I’m sorry but that’s just not a very solid point.</p>
<p>elitist? university of michigan sucks! and the acceptance rate is 50% for freshmans HAHAHA. Yes, moses, keep telling yourself how “elite” you are.</p>
<p>Btw, for transfers, berkeley’s acceptance rate this year is 30%. In my opinion Berks 30% > UMich’s 50% for freshmans</p>
<p>Haha, I love these cheapshots. And that’s why University of Michigan is ranked ABOVE UCLA, yeah it must suck. Mojojojo69 did you even read my post? I’m not an elitist in the sense of where I go to school, mylifeisover calls me an elitist because I have pride. He must have felt stupid for making such a foolish post, that’s probably why he deleted it.</p>
<p>Not really, cuz i got into berkeley, cornell, and amherst. So i guess not…</p>
<p>God, the people on college confidential are gross, stooping to new lows. Berkeley gets almost twice the applicants because of the size of the state, if you compare the academic caliber of berkeley/umich admits (SAT/GPA), they’re essentially the same. And, I never called myself an elitist, that was mylifeisover.</p>
<p>moses, I honestly dont know why you come here and dissed everyone on the california thread. Im just baffled by it…</p>
<p>This is where we come here to innocently talk about our transfer lives and ask questions; we dont expect to be dissed. You came to our mecca! and then u expect us all to agree? lol I mean, yeah its easier to transfer, but is it really our fault? does it change anything by you dissing us? nope. so lets move on :)</p>
<p>Actually, I never expected you to agree, I’m voicing an opinion, I’m letting you guys in on reality, the reality that not everyone thinks it’s so great that people are able to transfer with such ease. You are the one who decided to start taking cheapshots, transfer students to elite schools just disgust me, I am done.</p>
<p><3 i love you moses5759. can we marry and have inter-transfer student to elite schools/elite student babies? And i say marry because i wouldn’t want to go against your morals.</p>
<p>moses…
I really don’t think mojo or any of the rest of us who actually got accepted into Berkeley really cares what any of your friends think. We will be sitting in our lecture halls earning our degree while you are out of state brewing at the fact that we know the system and worked hard within the confines to obtain admittance to a school you were rejected from. Be as blunt as you want, but I really don’t know know what you expected to happen by coming on a thread you know to be for transfer students and start crying about people cheating their way into the system. grow up.</p>
<p>I think I made it clear that it’s not about the fact that I didn’t get into Berkeley, it’s about principle, and it goes for UCLA too (which I did get into, if you look at my other posts, it’s pretty clear that I had no interest in going to either UCLA/Berkeley, as I only posted on threads concerning Michigan, stop making me out to be bitter). Getting into elite colleges via CC’s is such a California mentality, and obviously California CC’s also have this mentality, as they are the one’s advocating it to people like you.</p>
<p>Moses,</p>
<p>I got into the hardest school to get into out of HS (Service Academy), didn’t like it and dropped out. Then went to a ****ty state school and pulled a 2.9…didn’t even go to class, I partied my ass off. Then I went to a California CC (never even VISITED the state b4 enrolling) and got a 4.0…and now I’m going to UCLA…essentially ranked right alongside Mich! Hope you enjoyed working your ass off your first two years of college, cuz I sure didn’t ;)</p>
<p>We still dont understand why you’re tripping.</p>
<p>Transfers (whether they deserve it or not) transfer in and do well if not better than freshman-admits. So why are you so insulted? You do not know about anybody’s personal circumstances.</p>
<p>Its just a second chance that intelligent and capable California CC students take advantage of.</p>
<p>most transfers get good grades, work and/or volunteer, live balanced lives and end up doing just fine at these elite schools after transfering, so chill out.</p>
<p>Community college also really isn’t much easier than college. College is college, if you manage your time and work hard, its doable. I know people from SFSU, UCSC who are equally unchallenged and bored with school as I am and vise-versa.</p>
<p>And also a lot of people from four years who claim community college is harder!!</p>
<p>the CSU system is a joke (aside from the 2 or 3 good ones), CSU pretty much equals CC difficulty.</p>
<p>and lower UCs aren’t much better…</p>
<p>Even UCB isn’t that bad outside of the sciences/engineering…humanities is the same ish everywhere (outside of the too ~20 schools)</p>
<p>^ i know nobody will agree, but i’ve taken classes at over 5 different CC’s, taking a class at Berkeley, and I’ve been inside classes at UCSC, UCD, and UCB (regular school yr).</p>
<p>it all comes down to the professor and subject and how much they push you… IMO</p>