Other than getting an early jump on registering for preview day, probably not. Course registration is not available until later - summer.
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Thanks. Can you do preview day virtually? I know itās required, but I would rather not pay to go down there from Washington state for just 2 days unless I have to of course.
Florida instituted the Grand Parent discount, so obviously the governor/state legislature do not share your opinion on admitting OOS students. Therefore (and I support you here) WRITE YOUR CONGRESSMEN!
Their goal is NOT to help Floridaās kids. It is a business move to graduate talented students that will likely stay in-state and make companies very happy. Bright Futures is the tool for ākeepingā Florida students instate. Again, complain to Tallahassee.
Why is it always blame everyone else when things do not work out exactly as you want? The student has another option in FSU. There is also UCF and USF.
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Itās just important to remember nothing in this process is guarenteed. A lot of the time, I think that people who have challenges moving on from a rejection believed for some time that they were guarenteed to get in when they really never were. Itās also important to get that it is not a fair process and it will never be. Life is not fair.
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Florida law requires that the University-wide system have a student body composed of at least 90% Florida residents. Any one university can have less, but the university system as a whole must not have less than 90% Florida residents. Not all states have this requirement, some will gladly take more OOS than in-state. To me, this looks like Florida is attempting to help Florida students. The other 10% goes to students from the other 49 states, making it challenging to get accepted as an OOS student. Obtaining a grandparent waiver does not move you from OOS to instate. You are still classified as an OOS student.
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So the Florida kids are competing with other Florida kids. As it should be. Seems like a lot of people want to blame oos kids for taking up Florida spots, but this doesnāt make sense
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State schools should favor/protect in state applicants, especially high stat kids. I know I would have been mad if WI denied my 4.0 child after I paid taxes in WI for decades. HOWEVER, those who plan to contact their representatives I hope you also support additional state money to the university system (in other words, favor tax increases to support ever increasing cost of universities). In WI we just passed a law requiring UW Madison to accept top 5% of every high school. Makes senseā¦but our legislature has also continuously underfunded the system in recent years plus voted for tuition freezes.
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Texas does this - top 10%.
Having lived in and out of Florida over my lifetime, the tax burden is very low compared to many/most other states. No income tax. Last I checked the overwhelming majority of FL state revenue came from sales tax revenue and the tourism industry is a significant contributor to that revenue. The state does support its universities well, and has increased support in recent years. I have assumed the funds for that support came from general revenue, meaning general sales tax revenue/tourism. But maybe thereās some other income stream?
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Good point. That may change the perspective of Florida residents vs someone like me living in a state funded by income and property taxes paid by state residents. (And maybe the 30 trips Iāve taken to Florida over the years helped pay for the university system my daughter will now most likely be joining 
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For all the in state parents I totally get your frustration. However, have some level of sympathy for those of us that live in states whose flagship is horrible. Like Maine. At least you have some great second and third choices. Us? Our choice is the worst flagship in the United States. And there are no second and third choices.
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Thatās why 10% OOS are allowed. They account for reasons like a bag flashipship and let in OOS to help them out. Florida kids getting 90% is plenty. What do the people arguing against OOS want, 100%?
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I doubt that itās a lot of people. Weāre instate and have no issues with OOS admission.
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I agree with Intercoastal. Iād add that you should look at median, not average, starting pay. Iād also look at employer names for types of positions to ensure they are analyst positions vs. sales. Iāve found the more vague the statistics, the worse the hidden parts are. You may want to rethink colleges which, after calling their placement office, donāt provide placement statistics. Lastly, youād want to look at percentage of graduating class responding to the placement survey.
UFās overall bachelorās placement wasnāt great at 53% at graduation but the placement survey is mandatory for all grads and it is a large state school. Overall placement is misleading as the chosen major, academic and non-academic performance, companies applied to, and interview skills may result in high or low placement. Iād look to see if a targeted employer recruits for your childās target starting position.
As for prepping for an MBA, its how well your child does in / outside of class plus GMAT score, plus post BA work experience progression, which dictates getting into an MBA program, not the name of the undergrad. The undergrad should be a decently resourced school (any Tier 1/R1 research but doesnāt have to be, Tier 2/R2 would probably be fine too), not a remote non-competitive 200 class size college.
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The most rational thing to do is to try to promote FSU and UCF as flagships with great specialties and waivers. Same to TAMU. Virginia has 3 high end state schools. GA has 2. NC has 2. SC has 2ish. PA has 2. States should want more OOS students bc it adds to the experience and makes them more national rep. UF and UGA will further close the gap on prestige with UNC, UVA, MICH UT Austin and GA Tech probably sometime as reputations become more national. The test score differences between these schools largely relates to how much OOS there is and history. But sunbelt is rising and will likely continue to. Having 1 flagship makes kids choose OOS more than they may like. The difference between the education or student quality based on admit rates you get at any of these schools is exaggerated.
FSU OOS waiver makes it compelling to a lot of OOS students. Itās clearly rising.
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Sadly no you have to do preview in person. It is a good experience and you will register for your classes officially on day 2. You have the option to stay in the dorms for one night between night one and two
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Thanks. I know it will be a good experience. Do you know how much time is generally in between the last preview and move in time? Because if itās just a couple of weeks, I might be able to stay with some friends down there. Theyāve already said they want to help me out as I get adjusted down there.
I think the legislature has made a statement over the last few years that they want to benefit instate students. OOS NMF used to get full tuition at any of the state schools, but now the state no longer pays (UCF and I think USF still give a limited number of scholarships, but those are from school funds, not state funds).
It was controversial, but the state is limiting the funds to New School of Florida because, first, the school was paying much higher per student costs to NSF, and second, there are a lot of OOS students at NSF.
The state also allows students to use bright future funds at instate private schools. The state recognizes that there arenāt enough spots at public universities but still wants top students to stay instate. My daughter received her BF money, a now ended (but still available to some students) Florida resident grant to attend a private school, and the state version of SEOG.
I really think Florida does a great job of making higher ed affordable to instate, in providing the 12 universities and the many community colleges (especially those connected to a university). There are articulation agreements. And Florida still attracts high talent from other states.
But UF canāt admit 50k students every year. And I think it does a pretty good job of not offering a lot of merit aid so that some students get a better deal at another university. Gee, isnāt that what Harvard does, not offer merit?
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Exactly. When people donāt get what they want, they find scapegoats. Itās convenient to point to OOS students and first gen. students when your student is denied admission. Maybe Florida should allow zero OOS studentsā¦if this happened there would be people in Boca Raton whose kids donāt get admitted who would point to higher admittance rates in Jacksonville or vice versa as the reason their golden child didnāt get accepted.
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