Many colleges do this. It is very common with some schools to gather data.
Thanks for posting this. Having a little panic here as the music application is due this Sunday, Dec 1, and one academic teacher hasn’t submitted their rec yet via the common app (my son asked him last spring, and the teacher still hasn’t done it). On Monday he said he’d get it done by EOD Wed, but it’s now Friday and it’s still not in there. We don’t know if he’s checking email over the Thanksgiving weekend to get the gentle reminders. For the music application, we can’t tell if any of the music teachers have submitted their recommendations yet, though we know his private teacher hasn’t yet, and he says he’s busy with a show this weekend. Fingers crossed these 2 teachers come through. We’d assumed there would be a grace period for the recommendation letters after Dec 1, but this post makes me think otherwise. Again and again I find myself surprised by how stressful this all is for these poor kids.
There does seem to be a grace period for SMTD:
December 1 is the application deadline for admission and merit-based award consideration for all undergraduate and most graduate programs. For some programs there may be a short grace period to accept late documents. Complete applications consist of the online application, all transcripts, any required test scores, essays or personal statement, recommendations, and an Artistic Profile. We understand that recommendation letters may not come in until after the deadline, but we will require that all have been received before making an offer of admission.After the deadline, we may accept late applications at our discretion if space remains.
I would have your student reach out to admissions on Monday. And continue to follow up with the teachers. I agree the process can be quite stressful. Good luck.
I would get what you can finished and as suggested call admissions on how to go forward on Monday
Chance me for Mechanical Engineering
9th: 67% (I know it’s ■■■■)
10th: 92.4% with 98% in Physics and 91% in Math.
11th: 37/45 (36/42; 6s in HLs)
12th: 41/45 (38/42; 7s in HLs)
Awards
Certificate of Excellence in Math, Physics, and Hindi (school)
1st place in science fair (interschool)
2nd place in entrepreneurship competition (national)
3rd place in science fair (school)
Extracurriculars
Invented brick that captures & converts wasted heat into usable energy
Wrote a paper on using bioluminescence for energy generation
Theorized and made a proof of concept on irrigation of water using only solar heat. Calculated distance of reach to be 200+km.
Self taught pianist.
Taught 2 adults music theory and conducted evaluations.
Registered Ayushman health insurance for 50+ BPL; Led food drive, distributed sanitary pads to 65+ women, clothes, blankets to 50+ street dwellers
School soccer team captain
Student council
Essays/LORs/Other
Essays are great.
LoRs are also pretty nice. Math LoR includes how I found a mathematical way of predicting the year on which a date lands on a specific weekday, Physics LoR includes my projects and how I created my own version of Biot-Savart Law for helical conductors.
So chancing is tough especially with internationals. I just don’t have the knowledge to guess. But it’s a very tough ask. Have many safety schools that are affordable. If you can’t afford the approx, $300,000 to go all 4 year’s, I wouldn’t apply. Good luck.
@kongurene made a thread here:
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Well, well well, those applying to Michigan. Michigan beat Ohio State once again. 4 year’s in a row. Go Blue! They were a 19 point underdog or were they really??
How they accomplished this is what makes a Michigan Wolverine. They studied hard. Had some fun. Analyzed the situation. Put that information into action.
How do you analyze football? Past now 23 year’s the team with the most running yards won the game. Michigan with definitely a lessor team talent wise accomplished this today. They actually should of had 7 more points but save that for another day. It’s the grit and determination and persistence when fighting against all odds.
That engineering exam you scored 45 to pass. Sometimes just getting through a test. Michigan is an extremely hard school and it doesn’t get talked about enough.
Have that determination to get the homework done, go to that study group and meet with your professor. That is how you get to the finish line or goal line.
Go Blue!!
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My daughter who is class of 2025 had the best 4 years in terms of football. They won the rivalry game every year. She attended the national championship last year! Overall an awesome experience. Such a collaborative school!
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So Jealous. My son graduated in 2021 and we beat OSU the next year. Myself and my wife (an Alumni) were on the field after the game with the other 100,000 plus fan’s. An unreal experience.
It is a very collaborative school. But as stated not an easy school at all. The kids at Michigan work hard. But to get a good internship and /or job that is what is expected. A good friend’s daughter graduates this year also. She couldn’t be happier with her college choice.
Good luck to your daughter.
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Hello all. What are the prospects for a OOS (Illinois, NW Suburbs big school) with a psychology major? D has a 3.71 UWGPA with a 4.53 WGPA. 6APs (including AP Psych this semester) and 7 Honors courses. Pretty solid essays. 4 year athlete with club leadership and good community service. She is applying TO. Thank you for any input.
She is applying EA, forgot to mention.
Who knows lol. My son got in from Chicago 2017. He went to the top school in the state at that time Northside College Prep. Michigan likes Illinois and they are like the 3/4th most populous state at the school. They only look at ungpa. AP psych is nice but not really rigor. But the honor classes are. It also depends on which AP classes.
Main thing is, is your school a feeder school into Michigan? What are the GPA of the kids accepted.
Can you afford the school?
Many if not all the students will have similar backgrounds. All my sons friends were top kids in their schools. Lsa GPA avg acceptance is 3.9. It’s a tough school to get into think OOS it’s like 14% now. Plus it’s a very hard school once your in. They do judge holistically and like those essays, so hopefully it was well written.
If you have more questions keep asking
Thanks for replying. Last year a handful of kids got into Michigan and only half of those attend now for whatever reason so I wouldn’t say it is a feeder school. It is a public school. We also would not be looking into any type of financial aid so perhaps that helps.
Rigor-wise she is there. She took the highest level classes available to her. I am not worried about her if she attends. It is more like a lottery now with so many applicants and for good reason, it is a great school.
Well good luck. There are schools like New Trier that have been feeder schools for year’s so why I asked. She’s evaluated compared to her peers at her school. If she has rigor that is key. They look for that.
No longer the case! (Northside had a much higher admit rate than NT)
Here’s some good data by high school (only for class of 2019, which was pre-pandemic so at least not murky because of that.)
How does your kid’s GPA compare to those who were accepted? (Assuming your HS has Naviance, Scoir or a program like that.)
Michigan really likes test scores, so with a 3.71 and without a test score it’s a high reach. Even reachier in terms of getting any financial aid beyond the first year student loan. Did you run Michigan’s NPC? Net Price Calculator
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That GPA is on the low side for Michigan. They really like to see at least a 3.85 UW and closer to a 3.9-4.0 UW
With that UW GPA and going TO, I would be surprised if she gets accepted. I hope I am wrong. Elite applicants with tremendous rigor from all over the country are applying to Michigan with strong test scores.
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Nice catch. Lol but it’s old data but I am kinda glad. So many other schools have great kids.
Totally agree with having test scores. It’s just hard to unsee a 34 Act. I think many students harm themselves by not sending in the scores since they think it is too low and it might not be.
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This is where it gets murky. If her classes are all honor’s plus AP that is a lot of rigor. If she A’s out, she will be looked at.
Michigan defers it seems like everyone (not really but it seems that way), to RD. So get prepared for that. Doesn’t really mean much. They “might” want to see her midterm grades. That’s a biggie. Also they don’t like kid’s “taking off” senior year. They view senior year as getting ready for college.
In other word’s, don’t take your foot off the gas mentality. If you want it. Then go for it to the best of your ability.
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