Michigan doesn’t skim off the top of the applicants. Most of the applicants are highly qualified anyway.
Many Vals are not accepted but yet again there are many Vals in each year.
Michigan used to be a “show me interest” school but with the number of applicants I am sure that has changed a bit. But as stated going to online groups, showing up if they come to your school /region. Asking questions that can’t be found on their website, talking /emailing with Professor’s of interest and some use that in their essays. Sending in a Loci in Junior year but with a questions that can’t be found are some ways of showing interest. There are also high schools that do reach out to the AOs. Happens at a lot of schools but that essay should really reflect who you are and hopefully make you have a separation from the pack. I hear yearly of people getting in that barely spent time on it but the ones I have read from on CC from multiple schools have been really good.
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Thoughts on Ross? There’s no deferral right? It’s pretty much Ross or bust? They clearly state that you really really need to apply EA. As an OOS applicant and for the price, it’s Ross or not interested for my daughter. Bc now you can’t transfer in and don’t get accepted to LSA first anymore. But if you are in-state, it’s worth considering if going to Mich for instate tuition isn’t worth risking the selectivity of Ross? Will the number of Ross applicants decline this year? Or at least slow in acceleration I would guess.
This looks current. Addressing the transferring in part. They accept 100 students to transfer in sophomore year. But it’s competitive just like everything else at Michigan.
If your daughter really wants to go to business school, then have her apply that way. Many students still “want” to go to Michigan. They will go into business usually with Economics or such. They do well in the job market.
In the past you could apply to something like Lsa get accepted Then your application would go to Ross for their review. This year they ended that. They also have more direct admits in other schools at Michigan. With over 90,000 applications something had to give.
We won’t know about how many applications to Ross probably till summer time /fall. I don’t think there will be a huge drop off if any. People still view Michigan as a reach and will still try to get in.
I think there will be a significant drop off in Ross applications with the direct admit change. In the past, LSA applicants had nothing to lose by adding a Ross application (other than time to prepare the supplementals). Even applicants with nothing on their application suggesting a business nexus might have figured why not throw my hat in the Ross ring. With direct admit, applicants will decide they have a better shot with LSA unless the applicant can show their application makes sense for Ross.
“Nothing to lose” is relative, because in the past years, if you applied to Ross with your home school being LSA (or other) and were denied Ross BBA admission, but were accepted to LSA, then an applicant would be virtually shut out from applying as a Ross transfer from LSA (or other) due to the Ross rejection.
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I wouldn’t think a Ross rejection would shut out applicants who apply as as a Ross transfer. If a student has an explempary freshman year taking “required” (or suggested) classes, that student could be admitted as a sophomore, no?
My understanding is if you applied to Ross and are rejected you can’t apply under the cross campus transfer system. That is for students that haven’t applied yet.
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In the past, you would in all likelihood (not an absolute) be locked out of being a cross campus transfer, if a Michigan student had applied to Ross and were rejected.
That exact language was published on their previous Ross BBA website. So, in the past, one had something to lose.
In the past, Ross BBA had a strong preference for external transfers.
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That is indeed how it used to work. But moot now, with Ross direct admit only (because starting w/ class of 2029 no one in LSA could have also applied to Ross.)
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That’s too bad that students are unable to reapply.
Interesting that for the cross campus transfers, Ross would prefer someone who had not applied to Ross originally over an applicant who wasn’t originally accepted to Ross (but possibly rejected due to the unbelievable competition of that year’s applicant pool), had a very strong freshman year, and put in the effort to reapply.
Just as a reference with a total enrollment of 32k, roughly 60% are in LSA, 20% in Engineering and 10% in Ross. The other schools account for the remaining.
I’m speculating, but potential cross campus transferees are already paying tuition at Michigan, whereas the potential external transferees are not…yet.
But it’s moot now anyway.
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It’s all very interesting. I also believe that only Ross Admissions is involved in the review of the application. For instance, my daughter goes to a very large public school outside of Boston. They have a great relationship with the AO for Michigan and she knows the school well. During our visit to Michigan, she introduced herself and my daughter saw her again at a college fair in Boston and again at a school presentation. She was so nice and requested my daughter reach out to her and email her over the summer (common courtesy I’m sure). This AO will now not see her application whatsoever. Just Ross. Does Ross know her school well - I have no idea. Does any of this matter in the grand scheme, no but it’s interesting. Ross admissions is now scoring the two university essays, the common app and essay and then the portfolio? Just interesting.
Truly feels admissions are a toss up.
Good luck to your daughter, she sounds well situated but like you wrote, who knows.
Chance me please!
In state; 3.99 UW (school doesn’t do weighted); 1530 SAT superscore 740 English 790 Math; 30 credits of dual enrollment courses all transferable to UM including Calculus 1-3 and general physics 1 and 2. I am also the NHS president and work a part-time job for around 20 hours a week. LoR include the chair of the math department at the university in which I took those dual enrollment courses.
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I have a call out to the administration from Ross. Once I get that I will post it here.
Regular admissions did state that if not accepted from Ross EA, it goes into RD.
There are other questions that I want Ross to answer. Speculation is never good.
But back to my day job. Lol.
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I just discussed these questions with The University of Michigan , Ross Business School.
If someone applies and doesn’t get accepted in EA they can be denied, postponed or accepted.
The ones they determined get passed on to RD. Which will be a lot.
If in RD you can get wait listed.
Yes, University of Michigan undergraduate DOES review all applications and also Ross.
If you are denied admission but get into Michigan at a later time and you reapply to Ross the chances of getting in are very low since they will give admission to those NEW applicants first and we all know there won’t be any left over spots.
Now there is no speculation. They are getting calls on this also.
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Is your school a Michigan feeder school? Do you know how many students get accepted each year? Everything looks great so your acceptance is increased being instate.