Financial and/or merit aid for OOS students is rarely provided by UMich. OTOH, UMich is trying to attract more in-state students with initiatives like the Go Blue Guarantee (and HAIL too), offering free tuition to those families making $65,000 and under:
So, if you’re asking my opinion, I think UMich is reducing the # of spots for OOS admissions and that’s why the Class of 2022 in-state acceptance rate is 41% and the OOS acceptance rate is 19%. UMich doesn’t appear to have a problem attracting full-pay OOS families with large increases in OOS apps and a dropping OOS acceptance rate.
@Nhatrang. This has been talked about for years. They run it like a private school already but privates tend to give good merit /scholarships so I am game and they can give my junior more money now, no sense of waiting.
In order to take the University of Michigan private, the State of Michigan would have to change the State Constitution. I just don’t see how that happens, unless the State of Michigan goes bankrupt.
Of course but it won’t happen but they don’t get much from the state either. It’s just a very efficiently run school. But with 11billion in endowment would be nice if they showed some more love…
Oh, how I agree. How about starting with the little stuff, like not billing me for copier paper that my kid uses to print homework assignments? Last month, I got a bill for $3.36 or whatever. $11-12 Million endowment and we get copier paper bills. And no free laundry. 8-| ~X( :-t
UMich may have a low OOS acceptance rate but they still have way too high of a OOS enrollment rate, around 50%, which is a disservice to its in state tax paying constituents. The main reason the OOS acceptance rate is so low is because a whopping 4.5 times the number of applicants are oos bs in state. 52k oos applications vs around 12 k in state applications.
But OOS is dropping by a whopping 1% per year. While OOS tuition is going up by a rounding error of say 6% per year. So maybe OOS helps keep instate tuition rates in check.
Maybe the inverse. Increase OOS enrollment and decrease OOS tuition.
I know a Departmental Dean of Students at a State School and they love out of state students because it builds into their budget.
Yep… bottom line sometimes it’s as simple as Show me the Money.
@adaorange like every state with a great public college is going through this. UIUC changed what they were doing about 3 years ago and increased instate acceptance. Same for Georgia and Georgia Tech etc etc.
In reality with all the great colleges out there, there are very few like Michigan. I see the allure for OOS students like my son. It hits all the points he wants in a college and his experience so far is exceptional. It’s a top college in just about all rankings for just about any subject with great sports. As a parent I couldn’t be happier. But if they decide to throw some more money our way… I won’t refuse…
How does international enrollment play in? I bet if oos is dropping then international is increasing. Because in state isn’t increasing i don’t think. Uiuc plays that game with internationals. They keep in state pretty high, like 65 or so, oos is not very high, but international is super high relative to Michigan and other big ten schools. Straight cash homey.
Illinois had the most internationals of any school, I think mostly in Asia. They wanted to hit 20% and forgot where they ended up at. Yes, full pay. Don’t blame them since our state wasn’t giving them really anything. Engineering is self sufficient. We, the people, complained since instate kids were not getting accepted to programs like engineering. So the state reversed course since kids were /are going out of state to get better merit /financial aid. One reason were at Michigan (honestly my son would of gone to Michigan anyway…). Illinois actually decreased their GPA /states just slightly for instate kids vs OOS etc.
But why are acceptances down… Yes our kids are competing with international, people of lower income are applying at higher rates due to the ability to go to college with lots of financial incentives which is great. But there are only so many seats to every class. Unless Michigan is adding more dorms don’t see them adding students.
"The Year 2000 was the Year of the Golden Dragon, so the Class of 2022 was supposedly a year phenomena. However, as I mentioned above, a couple of students who came back from a recent Campus Day posted that UMich said they received “nearly 70,000” apps this year or about a 5-6% increase.
OTOH, the UC system saw a DECLINE of 3% in apps for the Class of 2023. Weird."
@sushiritto Someone on a UC forum stated that the Year of the Dragon phenomena impacted 66% of 2022 apps, and only 33% of 2023 (born in winter of 2000). The decline in CA apps this year may perhaps be attributed to 66% Asian students born (or not born) in the Year of the Snake (after Feb 2001). There are more Asian students in CA than in Michigan, which may be the reason why the # of apps hasn’t impacted Michigan much. Of course this is all just theory in the US, but it’s already been proven to be an impact on Chinese universities.
@racereer I applied RD not EA, so it was already uploaded to the common app before I submitted. It says downloaded on the common app, and that’s how everybody else’s was sent. I just wanted to post here because it seems the most active.
For a great public school such as UMich, it’s really a shame that there is such a low applicants for in-state compared to OOS {1 to 4?). And the main, probably the only reason for this, is UMich is too expensive for in-state. It’s really a shame. The Michigan residents should rip the benefit more because they are paying taxes, but they don’t bc they can’t afford. And they can’t mandate the quota for instates because they simply don’t have enough applicants.
The UCs, UNC, UVA all comparable to the quality of Umich and they have significantly more instate applicants than OOS, and they are required to meet instate quota. All possible because the cost is very reasonable for instate.
My 2 cents, Umich should either lower instate cost, or make it a private institution, release the state fund, and charge everyone the same high cost.
Michigan has to be one of the best instate deals out there. Maybe I am missing something here. My friends in North Carolina now have some great deals but I think their schools take like 80% or more instate kids.
It to me just seems that the instate local high schools have less qualified students that can apply to Michigan. Also for instate lots of kids are now going to Grand Valley and Wayne State, they are like the new cool schools to go to. They all cost just about the same price at Michigan. I have two nieces that were considering Michigan but went to Grand Valley and Michigan State instead. It’s were their friends were going to. Many Michigan kids only apply to instate Michigan schools and don’t even consider OOS options since they have a wealth of good schools instate.
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