<p>Again, I love these arguments about it not “making sense” who Michigan admits. Universities accept those students they want. Period. Obviously, some students with great grades and test scores were not as attractive as other students. That’s why they were not accepted. No one has a “right” to admission. Grades and test scores are considered in context. Harvard does the same thing. Why are thousands (literally) of 4.0 students rejected by Harvard? People need to learn to deal with disappointment.</p>
<p>Meriks: you say you did not even apply to Michigan. Then why are you on this board? Haven’t you better things to do? </p>
<p>@excanuck99</p>
<p>I’m applying Regular decision, but did not submit my app yet.</p>
<p>Thank you for caring so much about me by the way. </p>
<p>Michigan is doing the exact same thing as Columbia and Georgetown. Columbia and Georgetown have also accepted far fewer students EA/ED than in the past. They all are only accepting those students they really want. Michigan has publicly stated that it (1) wants to reduce the size of its freshman class: and (2) increase diversity, especially socio-economic diversity.</p>
<p>My sense this year is that the Admissions staff really has to sense your wanting to be at Michigan. I’m sure my S’s OOS LSA acceptance was helped that he has a brother graduating, that he’s visited multiple times, he talked with professor’s, he is familiar now with campus and was able to speak to all this in his essays. I would guess that some high stat applicants were not familiar enough with Michigan. </p>
<p>Now, I also strongly feel those deferred with 2250+ SAT/33+ ACT applicants with 3.9+ GPAs will largely get accepted very shortly (in January in many cases). I think they just need to follow up and show interest.</p>
<p>There is an interesting comment on other boards that Michigan is using the CA question on income to identify socio-economically deprived individuals. The Supreme Court endorsed using socio-economic indicators as a way of promoting diversity. Anecdotal evidence is that Michigan admitted more low income students EA than high income ones, and also admitted markedly fewer students from private schools. They certainly have improved their OOS financial aid, as last year several students at our school got great packages.</p>
<p>my son got in with early action
asian, from virginia, high income bracket
4.27 gpa
only one we know got in from his school
2140 sat
9 ap’s
not visited michigan
will wait to hear if we get into ross by march/april</p>
<p>@SmileAlways15 Thank you! </p>
<p>I think that some people on this board need to be a little less sanctimonious and a little more sensitive to those who did not get in. Yeah, if you got in, that’s fantastic. No one is in any way doubting your right to be on the podium. You have what it takes, and you succeeded. I can’t speak for every high stats candidate, but there are many who DID visit; who DID try to hit that “Why Michigan” essay out of the park, and who nonetheless, and somewhat inexplicably, did not get in at this round. Please be solicitous of those who really tried; who felt like they were getting in per naviance; who wrote kicking essays; who spent upwards of $1000 flying to Detroit, booking a hotel, renting a car, and visiting; and who are trying to make sense out of this. What do you have to gain by suggesting they didn’t deserve it? You won, bro. Be a good sport. </p>
<p>Deferred CoE-</p>
<p>2240 SAT Single Sitting, Superscore 2300
ACT 34 (35M 35R 34E 31S)
SAT II - Math II 770 Chem 750
UW GPA: 4.0
Rank: 16/~800
10 AP classes by graduation (AP scholar)
EC’s- varsity sport 4 yrs, Honor society President, President of 2 other campus clubs
Held 1 job, conducted undergrad level research, multiple internships, extensive volunteering on behalf of international organization, Speech/Debate.</p>
<p>Hooks: none… typical asian male with middle class income</p>
<p>Recs: 1st teacher was general recommendation, probably didn’t help my decision. 2nd was long and thoughtful, physics teacher who gave me an award for excellence in her class</p>
<p>OOS from large public school from which probably not very many people applied EA?? I assume not many applied since I didn’t hear about any results from the top kids who were mostly doing ED/EA to Ivy league colleges, Stanford, or MIT. If anyone applied, he/she may have also gotten deferred like me.</p>
<p>Reflecting back on this, I’m not exactly sure why I got deferred, it may have been because of my essays or recs or a combination of both. As for being over-qualified… I’m not sure that I say that I am because UMich specifically stated that it would be looking to make the class size smaller, which includes cutting down on OOS kids. Although kids with lower “stats/numbers” than me got accepted, they most likely went the extra distance to show UMichigan was their top school, which probably sunk me. In all honestly, I can only hope that this business about UMich deferring qualified applicants EA to RD is true so that I can get accepted RD. If not, I guess I can settle for my own state’s flagship school (UT), which is just as good as UMichigan in Engineering and Business for the most part. Go blue! :/</p>
<p>I was accepted with a 27 ACT and a 3.8 GPA. My GPA is average for umich, but I am aware my ACT is a little low. I’m ranked in the top 5% of my class of 300, and about 12 kids of that received ACTs of 30+. Only 2 students from my school from that pool of students were accepted early action. I have taken 7 APs, am dual enrolled, and even tested out of a few courses. I do not consider myself “unqualified” for the University, and clearly the admissions reviewers did not either. Before Michigan switched to the common app, a 27 was average for Umich. Now correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t believe that the course difficulty at umich has increased enough over a 2 year period enough so that a student with a 27 is considered “unqualified”. Come on. I understand your son or daughter is a stellar student and has extra cirriculars and deserves much appraisal for that, but there is no reason a student with a lower test score or GPA should be deemed inferior to you or your child. I was admitted to the university because I have extensive leadership in my extra cirriculars. I have 5 of them, but I go above and beyond in each of every one. I am a leader in my community. I have chosen to devote myself to things that benefit me in ways beyond my academic education. I sacrificed my time and energy for a sub par score of a 27 on the ACT, which even then is still 88th percentile in the nation, for other forms of intelligence. I am not in any way trying to demote those who were deferred, because its true. Luck is almsot vital in the admissions process, but a few of us need to get our heads out of our asses and realize that there is more to life and a person than a high test score, and if you can prove that you believe that to admissions, you’re in.</p>
<p>I don’t think anyone is saying any of the other accepted applicants is unqualified! Absolutely not! You earned this, and you should feel very proud of your achievement! </p>
<p>@candys. If Michigan has a good feel for your school they may know that very few kids achieve top scores probably because you aren’t being prepped to death for the test. They may thus view a 27 differently than they would that of a kid where they know the student was likely tutored for the test. </p>
<p>My daughter knows her 30 is on the low side for Michigan generally but prob in the top quarter for nursing. She does feel badly for the many kids from her school with 34 or higher who were deferred. She feels very lucky to have been admitted </p>
<p>I think michigan recalculates GPA in their own way so you’re GPA number may not be the number that Michigan uses. Also, from where I live, they deferred entire high schools - it’s as though they didn’t even look at the apps from particular schools. Maybe they just didn’t have time and will now revisit those students and give them a fair shot. </p>
<p>Decision: Accepted</p>
<p>Applied to which school/college: LSA</p>
<p>SAT I (breakdown): 1950 (only took once march jr yr)
ACT: 28 (june), 33 (oct)
SAT II: 760 math 2, 760 chem, 710 french
GPA: 3.72 UW, 4.2 W
Rank : unknown
AP : french 2013 (4), chem 2014 (5)</p>
<p>State : CA
School Type: elite private school
Ethnicity: half asian, half white
Gender: female</p>
<p>General Comments:
dad attended, legacy</p>
<p>Has anyone else not gotten a reply yet that applied early action?</p>
<p>I think that there’s definitely yield protection involved in the early process, though as someone said before, if school all defer/reject “overqualified” students there will be no “safety school”–in early rounds they get to do so, but in regular rounds, acceptance for high-achieving students should be more predictable.</p>
<p>so what do all of the deferred applicants plan to do now? do we have to submit our first semester transcript? are any of you writing a pleading letter to your nearby counselor? feel free to message me; I’ll keep tabs on this forum anyways, but I’m stuck in the same boat as all of it. it’d be nice to know we’re going through this together.</p>
<p>not surprised at all; so many people who got accepted were already committed to a certain school.</p>
<p>right there with you!</p>
<p>applied to LSA: deferred</p>
<p>2280 SAT
34 ACT
3.9 unweighted
hispanic
decent # of ECs, varsity sport* 4 yrs, some leadership and national awards
OOS</p>