<p>BTW, Michigan had an election a while back, and our current governor is Rick Snyder. Granholm, thankfully, is out due to term limits.</p>
<p>I highly doubt that Michigan’s instate tuition is going to be frozen. It will continue to go up (unfortunately) but probably not at the same rate as oos. I expect oos to be 60-63 grand within 4 years. When they move off campus it gets even more costly for most given Ann Arbor’s skyhigh rental rates. My daughter rented a 3 bedroom 1 bath 800 sq ft place for $2000 next yr. It was about the cheapest around within walking distance and ugly as sin too. So with some utilities added in, she’s at 700 a month times 12 (yearly leases only in AA for the most part) for a total of $8400 and she still needs to eat.<br>
Most oos can attest to the fact that Michigan is looking for full pay from them, and that odds of getting any dollars to help out is slim to none. N</p>
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<p>They missed one state this year…can’t remember whether it was Wyoming or Montana, but an admissions rep was joking about it this fall. But yes the out of state population is still clustered from a handful of states. It will be interesting to see what happens with tuition. In-state seniors went over the $30,000 a year threshold according to friends who have seniors this year who don’t qualify for aid.</p>
<p>Demand is high for the wealthy oos so why not jack it up if Michigan needs the money.
My daughter has friends whose parents paid $38,000 for high school tuition so $51,000(or $53,000 for juniors and seniors) is pocket change to them. Most of the OOS she meets don’t even blink at the costs and seem able to just write the checks with no concern about bouncing their checkbooks-lol.</p>
<p>Oh I agree riverbirch…with over 40,000 applications this year to fill a class of 5,000 - 6,000 at UofM there is zero impetus for them to flatten tuition. Many of our friends’ kids that go to UofM as instate go there because it is a bargain compared to being full pay at a private college. And yes, some of those parents have been paying that much for several years for boarding school not in Michigan. Internationals have always been full pay at Michigan and Michigan meets full need for in-state kids so I don’t expect tuition to decrease.</p>
<p>FYI the attached link was my reference point:</p>
<p>[Where</a> Does Your Freshman Class Come From? - Facts & Figures - The Chronicle of Higher Education](<a href=“http://chronicle.com/article/Where-Does-Your-Freshman-Class/129547/#id=170976]Where”>http://chronicle.com/article/Where-Does-Your-Freshman-Class/129547/#id=170976)</p>
<p>Exactly momof3boys.
I went to a private college and comparing my education vs my daughter’s is a real eye opener. My school used Profs exclusively while Mich loves to put GSIs in front of its undergrads. All profs at my school spoke English as their first language…not so much at Michigan. My school cared that the profs actually had the ability to teach-not so sure this is the case at MI. I can’t imagine paying oos tuition there for the LSA school if there was any kind of burden involved. OOS is going to skyrocket-I’m probably low in my estimates.</p>
<p>“Not only is the state facing a $1.6 billion budget deficit, but Gov. Jennifer Granholm is pressing universities to hold tuition at current levels for in-state students.”</p>
<p>Please barrons, you need to do more current research on Michigan’s budget deficit. Currently the state is enjoying a budget surplus of 457 million dollars!</p>
<p>[Rustbelt</a> Recovery: Michigan Has A Budget Surplus And A Lower Jobless Rate Than Washington D.C.](<a href=“http://www.dailymarkets.com/economy/2012/02/09/rustbelt-recovery-michigan-has-a-budget-surplus-and-a-lower-jobless-rate-than-washington-d-c/]Rustbelt”>http://www.dailymarkets.com/economy/2012/02/09/rustbelt-recovery-michigan-has-a-budget-surplus-and-a-lower-jobless-rate-than-washington-d-c/)</p>
<p>“My school used Profs exclusively while Mich loves to put GSIs in front of its undergrads. All profs at my school spoke English as their first language…not so much at Michigan.”</p>
<p>Please show proof of this.</p>
<p>^^I don’t know that it matters what the budget in the state is. In the absence of any regulation, supply and demand will dictate what colleges will charge. If 1/3 of every entering class at UofM is willing to pay forty or fifty thousand dollars or more per year, then where is the impetus to lower costs for undergraduate students?</p>
<p>rjk, so I guess my daughter and her friends are lying to us all?? And my best friend is lying about her daughter getting a GSI position too?</p>
<p>^^^You make it sound like Michigan overwhelmingly uses foreign speaking GSI’s to teach undergraduates. That is nonsense of course.</p>
<p>barrons, sorry to break your illusion, but by definition whether what the taxpayers cough up to the University is adequate compensation for what residents receive in return is by definition an opinion, not a fact, since it is endlessly arguable. Are you saying there couldn’t be 1 more slot for Michigan residents? Or 5 more slots? Or 100? Clearly there is room for disagreement there, and so whether or the slots they get are what they “deserve” is an opinion, not a fact. How many they get is a fact, but that is all.</p>
<p>And BTW, $300 million is only a portion of what is actually paid by the state to the university. That is only the amount directly given to the University for certain aspects of its operations. There is separate money budgeted for medical facilities, certain research projects, and numerous other things. Not sure what it all adds up to, but it is much more.</p>
<p>Look, I am not saying that it doesn’t work for Michigan. Michigan can do whatever it wants. I am only saying that if I were a Michigan taxpayer, I would have to think very hard about whether reduced tuition were enough of a trade off for my tax dollars, or whether if, in fact, all qualified Michigan residents should get in before a single OOS student were accepted. Otherwise I would think it is better to make it clean and get the government out of it entirely. These are the messy issues that arise when the government uses tax dollars for something the private sector could also handle. JMHO.</p>
<p>Send her to Michigan. The only thing that Florida has that Michigan does not is a top-tier football team.</p>
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<p>Oh, that is SO out-of-date, barrons. You’re quoting from a February, 2009 news story, written in the depths of the Great Recession when it wasn’t clear to anyone whether the U.S. automakers, and the hundreds of parts suppliers dependent on them, would survive. Since then the state has made deep budget cuts, the U.S. auto industry has made a roaring comeback, and the State of Michigan is running a robust budget surplus.</p>
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<p>If that is the case then your daughter is very careless in selecting her classes. Hardly any classes at Michigan have a GSI as the primary instructor, and while GSIs are used to lead discussion sections and labs in large lecture classes, that practice is also prevalent at other major research universities including Harvard, Princeton, MIT and Stanford.</p>
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<p>I don’t think so. The State of Michigan doesn’t have money to fling around on medical research or medical facilities. As best I can tell, the University of Michigan health and hospitals system is a self-sustaining enterprise. It brings in major federal research dollars through competitive grants; that’s money that otherwise likely would not come into the state. Its new facilities are financed primarily through private philanthropy, supported by a modest operating surplus the health system runs in most years which allows the University to borrow on the bond market. It does get federal Medicare reimbursements just like any other health-care-and hospital system, as well as Medicaid reimbursements from the state for any Medicaid patients it treats, but those aren’t subsidies to the University; that’s all done on a fee-for-service basis, just like any other hospital or health care provider. No special treatment, no subsidies. </p>
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<p>You’re living in the past.<br>
Final 2011-12 AP college football ranking: Michigan (11-2) #12, Florida (7-6) not ranked.
Final 2001-12 USA Today college football ranking: Michigan (11-2) #9, Florida (7-6) not ranked.</p>
<p>You all missed the point which was that UM and the state negotiate over matters of instate slots and tuition. Nothing to do with the figures or trends. I would expect that if the state decided to provide more money now being more flush, they would request more slots and or holding back instate tuition. THAT is the point.</p>
<p>^^^^that goes for every state school, I would think Michigan is no exception, except for its elite status, which makes it more attractive for students to attend from all over the country.</p>
<p>I have a freshman at U of M right now. We struggled with this last year. The offers from financial aid were slow to come in, but they did come through with great aid. Talk to them, look at all your options, but don’t jeopardize financial peace of mind. Stay online searching for aid - its out there.</p>
<p>A 100k cost differential? It doesn’t make sense to pay that much extra for a Communications degree.</p>