Hi- my daughter is so torn between Darla Moore and Terry business schools. She was admitted to Darla Moore and invited into the Capstone program. For Terry she was admitted Pre business and has every intention of having the grades to get into the school when offered.
Both schools similar size, fun, etc. But b school to b school- with a Finance and Intl’ Business major - who had better job placement? Or more of a presence in NYC? What’s the insider reputation? any opinion / insight most helpful.
@Catcherinthetoast can probably comment on IB or finances in NYC, if that is what you want to know.
Hi yes- thank you! Curious about either of career pathway into NYC. Someone had told me UGA. / Terry very good for Atlanta but not for NYC. However UGA does have a very good general reputation in the NE so not sure what to make of this. I know all opinion based but interested in all perspectives. Most appreciated!
We know several international business grads from U of South Carolina. But none work in NYC. Actually now that I think of it they all work in Charlotte.
Neither school is a target school for IB and certainly will be difficult to get to NYC. Terry you might have an outside shot at an IB big bank internship, but not a chance with USC. Atlanta and Charlotte would be the best opportunities, but if you are looking for IB, neither school is what you want. That is silly, yes, but the way it is.
You might ask each b school for a comprehensive placement report. I don’t see one on line but here is a UGA one from 2022- which states NY as a top state - but it doesn’t say where in NY or who or types of jobs. I promise Terry has the info.
U of SC - I put an overview (you might have to open some hidden tabs if it doesn’t show up) and a list of companies they list hiring Intl. Business below - but again, you should ask for a comprehensive report with job titles ,locations, etc.
To me, there are two things that stand out. U of SC campus wise is much smaller than UGA. Everyone will decide differently but UGA was one of my daughter’s first cuts - just due to size where U of SC hit the final two. Of course, the immediate environs are different too.
The other thing is - if you’re studying international business, you are studying language and other international aspects. It’s great for the kid who wants - but maybe not for the kid who doesn’t.
So I think it’s more than - how can I get to NY? btw - if you don’t now - that’s what grad school is for - to give you another crack at the apple.
Best of luck.
U of SC Intl Bus: Recently, our graduates have gone on to work at national and global firms such as:
Extremely helpful thank you for the thoughtful response
For I Banking in NYC both aren’t particularly well represented. Neither school is a target or has extensive alumni networks.
Consequently, I don’t think either school has an advantage over the other. To break into an IB analyst role the candidate will have to stand out independent of their academic institution.
FYI we do know lots of kids from our NY/NJ area suburb who have attended and enjoyed both schools. The majority have not returned for their careers much to the disappointment of their parents.
Yes I can see how the schools graduates will pursue immediate post grad. / job opps in the more local markets and perhaps use Grad school as the link back into NYC if they so choose. So the perhaps the question is which business school is more prestigious Terry vs Marla Moore? And it someone choose one over the other- for what reasons? Opinions?
You ask for an opinion on Terry vs. Darla Moore? - I guess it depends - on the major, the interest, etc.
I’m not sure as a whole, one is necessarily better than the other. UGA might punch a tad better in finance; U of SC in supply chain - but are those differences game changing? Likely not.
As the in-state school, UGA might have more access to Atlanta where U of SC is sort of in between, but closer to Charlotte than Atlanta.
But I surmise that grads from the school end up in the same place. My company is headquartered in Atlanta and we have grads of both.
I think the answer to this question really lies with the student.
I think the student should pick the campus and program where they would feel best for the four years. I’m not sure picking the “better” of these two is worth picking the wrong one having to be on campus for four years, day after day.
So I would take the “better” out of it - and pick the right campus, cost, curriculum, football team, dorms - whatever it is - and not look back.
You can find a few IB profiles on linkedin - so a few find success - how they found success I don’t know - not for me to ponder (connected or through school, etc.)
I also put a write up from Peak on UGA (couldn’t find they did one on U of SC but it shows placements - and the page from the Finance Scholars at U of SC - which seems a small cohort but they show 40% go into IB. What’s that mean - the actual jobs and where? Another great question for the school.
But I truly think - your student could choose either of these and should the one that is best for them vs. - which is better - I’m going to say they’re both equally great.
Good luck.
PS - I had three linkedin links but because it’s CC you can’t put names - but you can find both schools represented in summer IB jobs - not sure if that’s an interest. So I had to edit out.
Thanks
University of Georgia Investment Banking Placement (Using Data) (peakframeworks.com)
Finance Scholars Program - Darla Moore School of Business | University of South Carolina
Thank you - extremely helpful info / perspective. yes- i feel the same regarding finding best for her. Just wanted to make sure we’re not missing something known to all but us!
In the world of business (and in the eyes of the prestige-seekers), I give an edge to Georgia.
@Catcherinthetoast it might be worth discussing “target schools” a bit here or on another thread. I have found that with the emergence of engineering becoming a career for many top grads, big banks have become far more open to above average schools like these. In full disclosure (you like that, don’t you), I have a child who just went through this process and is at U Miami.
I think they are comparable enough that she could pick the program where fit is best. I thought UofSC was a top program for International Business, but I haven’t checked in a while.
Finance in NYC - even though neither of these schools are well-represented on Wall Street proper, it doesn’t mean your daughter can’t find something in finance in a lower tier bank or corporation that is based in NYC or has offices there. She will likely have to do the legwork and networking herself to find opportunities in NYC, as UofSC and UGA will likely be promoting more opportunities in the southern region, but it is possible to get to NYC if that’s what she wants.
Both my daughters were/are finance majors at non-pipeline universities. My older daughter was recruited through Women on Wall Street and although she could have chosen an NYC office, she wanted to stay in Charlotte, so she chose an analyst position in the office here. She has since moved on to a VP position with larger bank that is based in NYC but negotiated a deal to remain in Charlotte and travel once a quarter to NYC.
My younger daughter is a junior and did all the legwork herself to find opportunities in NYC for her finance internship this summer (her university recruits mostly to DC and she didn’t want to be there). She had a fair amount of interest from firms in NYC (non-Wall Street but she’s not interested in that work environment anyway), had several rounds of interviews and two offers from NYC firms. Ultimately, she too decided she wanted to be in Charlotte (we live here) and she accepted an offer with a bank here. A lot of kids have “live & work in NYC” aspirations but when they do the math on the cost of living there, they make other decisions.
Just sharing my kids’ experiences, YMMV.
My daughter has had a similar experience from a “usually” non-target school. As the OP is also female, it is worth mentioning that the industry is more welcoming to women, from my experience.
For those unfamiliar, the Darla Moore IB program is very well respected Moore School announces 24th consecutive year as No. 1-ranked undergraduate international business program - Darla Moore School of Business | University of South Carolina and an invite to the Capstone program is an additional honor. It is a direct admit, whereas UGA Terry is not (though this student is certainly most likely going to get in). I understand the OP’s daughter’s difficult decision, and as others have said, the USC program is smaller and more personalized. Can’t go wrong either way. Good luck with the decision!
Hi all- I really appreciate your thoughtful responses- we will revisit to see what feels best and to dig in a bit more about career placement. Appreciate all your info!
Without honors at UGA, getting a NY IB placement will be very difficult. The honors finance kids who want NY IB generally get there through the honors-controlled feeder club. Not impossible without honors, but much more difficult.
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