I believe more than a perfect solution, the need of the hour is a common, consistent and transparent solution.
ACT/SAT scores fit that bill best at this time.
Equity differences in test prep can be addressed by free coaching, funding etc, like everything else.
Andā¦ many whose parents get so wound up in the elite college rat-race are setting their kids up for a major dose of disappointing reality in the workplaceā¦ one that cannot be undone later.
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Yupp, especially for cases where itās parents whoāve done more leg work than the applicant to seek admission to an elite school.
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Iām sure I saw the post youāre referring to, and it enraged me as well, even though my daughter didnāt apply anywhere ED. The fact that there could be long-term consequences to the schools and counselors should be enough for all students to follow through, yet it isnāt. I agree - parents allowing to pull out because their kids are fickle sends a terrible message.
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The previous poster said it. And i can point to so, so many more people who did not go to an elite college and accomlished as much or more as those who did.
And yes, my child is trying to get in to these same elite colleges for that first job or elite-network advantageā¦ but these advantages wear off very quickly in the real world.
If you donāt agree, fine. I wish you and your child only the best.
By May 1, I will come to terms with the trade-off between the $25 to 75k/year price premium of these ātopā schools and the likely short-lived benefits of a $25-50k 1st job salary bump + networkā¦
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Can and reality are different, many privileged kids have time, access, motivation, pressure to do so - my kid too, most donāt.
My kid had all of this, performs at the top of her class, with overload in good ECās - and totally sucks at standardized tests.
It wonāt hold her back in any wayā¦
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They are the only real, mostly equitable, option on the tableā¦ currently.
Which still doesnāt address the problem of too many equally qualified kids, too few seats.
I totally agree. We agonized over ED to Boston College. And then considered ED2 and at the end of the day my daughter wanted choices and we could not quite commit to the price tag. She knows her chances RD are not great and it kind of meant she let it go but thatās life. Donāt ED unless you have researched the cost, run the NPC and are 100%. There could be some really rare financial aid reasons but otherwise I am also so tired of seeing this.
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Mom of four!!! You and me both. This process is hard enough, and this year it seems like parents everywhere are dismissive of the consequences of breaking an ED contract. Itās our world today. Everyone out for themselves.
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I have to say I was wrong - Iām sorry!! I had my son forward me the email from 2023 - He was deferred EA & accepted on April 27 (before the Student Orientation events). He submitted a LOCI and mid-year grades. Best of luck to all!
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Ah, you crushed many hopes hereā¦ lol
Thank you for clarifying. And itās always good to hear from parents whoāve gone through this grind before.
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No worries! Thanks for checking and the follow-up. Glad heās loving it at UW!
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I am so glad we didnāt let our son ED. The cost was insane and he ended up getting a higher choice in the end anyway. I think ED is abhorrent anyway
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We had a similar plan, but ended up EDing to NYU Stern just two days before deadline. My DD and I debated it for several weeks, and eventually decided that itās the only school worth EDing from her list where she personally would have zero regrets about what-ifs scenarios. We knew applying ED was the only option if we could have a realistic shot at that school given her stats; she wouldnāt have RDed if we decided to not apply ED.
BTW, my point isnāt about whether NYU is the right school to ED or not, but a general approach. She was rejected (as expected), but we steered clear of any further EDs.
At my kidsā HS, parents and/or other students would be calling the various colleges and reporting this foul. Not kidding, it happens all the time.
I have never heard a college AO say they did this. If they did, the AOs would themselves be in violation of NACAC ethics rules and even though those guidelines donāt have the heft they used to, most people abide by them. The college where I work does.
There are no āteethā to NACACās ethics rules because of a DOJ lawsuit a few years ago, a lawsuit that said NACACās rules were anti-competitive to the colleges and NACAC didnāt have the $$$ to take up the fight. The consequences of settling this lawsuit and dropping certain clauses resulted in things like spiffs to apply ED (including better housing, priority registration, even merit awards), deposit/enrollment deadlines well before May 1, higher deposit/enrollment fees so students feel the pain if they double deposit or get off a waitlist. There are more but you get my point. There never really were any ED police.
Best of luck to everyone waiting for their Wisconsin decision.
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If you havenāt seen this, it may helpā¦ itās a little dated, but I see current postersā names, who might help thru PMā¦
This happened at our HS. A student pulled from ED after getting into an ivy RD, which had been unexpected but it was mid-April when this student pulled her ED to another school. It created very bad feelings with the HS and the ED school, our HS use to be a āfeederā for this smallish liberal arts school. No one was accepted ED the following year and the HS counselor told the students it was because there was bad blood and it would take some time for things to smooth over. I donāt think (?) a HS counselor would make that up.
Not saying it came directly from the AO, but the HS counselor DID say that they were experiencing a bit of a cooling period because of what happened.
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I believe you. The HS counselor should call NACAC because that behavior from the college is unacceptable and unethical (punishing students for something they did not do.) HS counselors (from accredited schools) are usually members of NACAC, as are AOs.
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Thank you for pointing out the NACAC rules, very interesting.