Had similar experience as your friend the salutatorian - legacy with very top stats (1st in class) and deferred ED etc. agree that the new Dean seems to be veering away from legacy because of the stigma associated with it. Good luck to your daughter at UNC!
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When are you guys gonna submit your LOCI for the waitlist?
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I should be clearer in what Iām saying. My children go to a large public school in a town where kids start training for sports at a very young age and are very supported all the way to and through the recruiting process. Prior to test optional we would have 2-4 recruit to an ivy (and some to other top schools). Since test optional weāve had many, many more kids get in through sports. With scores off the table itās easy for a student to take very basic classes and get a decent GPA. This year we had so many kids recruit to the Ivies (plus other top tier schools) in the ED round. Most of them were middle of the road students. Meanwhile all of the kids in the top 5% off the school who have top scores and grades and strong ECs and leadership had brutal results in ED and RD at the Ivies. We have about 25 kids going to an Ivy and only 3 of them would qualify academically. Itās frustrating and disappointing for all the gifted program kids who had such strong profiles and didnāt get in. So at our school it does feel like the floodgates are open but I realize that we have an unusual pool of athletic kids.
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Iām a bit late but I was accepted to Arts & Sciences!
4.0 UW/4.38 W
1440 SAT (730 M, 710 R)
32 ACT (33 SCI, 32 ENG, 32 R, 31 M)
9 AP, 6 Honors
4 AP Scores (APUSH 4, Calc AB 3, Physics C: Mechanics 3, Euro 3); Taking 6 exams this year.
ECās: 4 Volleyball related ECās with leadership roles; dedication to Academic Decathlon and Mock Trial; Twitch Streaming; edX Online Courses.
Personal statement about public speaking, supplements were about wanting to do research into lowering crime rates (applied for Criminology so it fit well) and a more creative essay detailing how I wanted to embrace Pennās ācolonyā (the essay was about ants lol).
Iām also first gen and, based on parentsā 2020 taxes, low income, as well as half Hispanic.
I also received a likely letter to Cornell, and I was admitted to Johns Hopkins, UCLA, and Georgetown, so this decision is going to be extremely tough!
Congratulations to everyone else who was admitted!
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Your daughter has been accepted to two incredible schools. You should be very proud of her.
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My son was rejected. 4.9 GPA. Valedictorian. Hispanic. Super stats/background on everything. Legacy.
But honestly, he got a full-ride merit scholarship at another non-Ivy, private university that he absolutely loved. So heās very happy! Good luck parents and donāt stress out your kids! In 25 years, no one cares where you got your bachelorās degree!
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DD took the Penn rejection in stride, saying: Well, I can still apply to Penn for grad school in 4 years.
Penn was a long reach for this valedictorian from a small, rural Michigan public school. College will provide bigger opportunities for her to improve her āresumeā for the graduate school application. Next: she will soon decide where to go to study business: Boston U, Miami U, or Ohio State. But first, one more campus visit to each.
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Great school choices, and donāt sleep on OSU business- especially if she is going to stay in the midwest. Excellent program, tremendous outcomes.
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Can you tell me about Governor School? Was it all summer?
Late reply: For you Westchesterdad22 (also from Westchester). D22 4.0 (unweighted, weighted not calulated by school, 7AP in last 2 years -not offered first 2 years), 34ACT, double legacy, 3 varsity captain (not recruited), paper editor with awards, science research (publication with Yale faculty and awards), model congress president (with awards), lots of charity, EMT, NHS, nat merit, lotās of community service, president of other groups, no clue about recsā¦Penn ED deferredā¦LOCIā¦contacted professors who were encouraging about future researchā¦parent an interviewer (not this year)ā¦rejected ( grew up going to many Penn Alumni things with us/Penn stuff all over the place)ā¦
Very tough unpredictable year. No legacy from HS got in. Recruited athlete with far less credentials and another non legacy but solid academic kid. All other legacy didnāt make it past ED (at least she did). TO by others probably hurt . Thought it was her best shot at an IVY.
Got into safeties/targets some with nice merit $ (GW, Brandeis, WM, UVM, Tulane, Rich). WL (Em, UMich). No to Tufts, WashU, JHU, U CHi, Penn, Yale, Brown)ā¦but on last opening IVY day not expecting anythingā¦got into Cornell.
It wasnāt one of her top choices (looking for smaller place (U Mich was an outlier) in more urban setting) but she applied there since her school has sent 8-10 there each year (class of 400) and it had a program she likedā¦ but sheās pretty adaptable is checking it out now (hadnt visited previously)ā¦and guessing that will be her choice after learning more.
Another example of how maybe legacy, or parent involvement (non faculty) may not mean as much now to Penn as in the past. Not sure what else she could have done to be attractive to Pennā¦so go Big Red (OK maybe there will be some conflict at Penn/Cornell games)
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In Arkansas itās a 4 week program. My GS really enjoyed it.
Interesting. Nyc anecdata - Penn legacy bloodbath at privates. Harvard/Princeton/yale legacies ok.
āRandomā Cornell admits for strong student like yours. Congrats!
So tough. I think, in the future, all AOs should be replaced by AI(Robots). Human-being AOs are too subjective.
My loverly daughter got WL by CMU, Cornell, UCLA, UMich. She has 4.0UW, 4.4Weighted. 4.6-4.7 UC GPA. SAT 1580. Two top Science Summer schools. Only 16 years old when applying.
Overall, the system is shifting to not merit-based, but whatever many BS-basedā¦
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This is probably the issue for some of the schools.
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why? i, for example, am a senior born in 05 bc i skipped preschool. hence, I applied to colleges at 16. this is an issue?
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It can be. Perhaps it wasnāt for you.
Iām not saying across the board itās an issue but some admissions officers (especially at the more selective schools) might have concerns about the maturity of a 16 year old at college as well as a having a 16 year old living in a residential college setting.
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that makes no sense, youāre saying admissions officers will have reservations about accepting any applicant who skipped a grade? also, applying at 16 means starting college at 17. thereās no difference between a 17 yr old and an 18 yr old, especially if that 17 yr old grew up with those āmore mature 18 yr oldsā their entire life.
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anyone get off the WL yet, or receive the email stating that some were accepted off the waitlist a few weeks ago?
I got the email a few weeks ago. Still on the WL. When should we be expecting the 2nd wave of admissions to come?
Still on waitlist (tbh thatās a W for me) never thought Iād be waitlisted for Wharton. So I thank Penn for believing in me but I donāt have much hope of getting off. Any news on a second wave.